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589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by gettheminNOVEMBER Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:06 pm
G wrote:
In the early morning hours, Rep. Barbara Lee did attempt to attach H.R. 589 to the Fiscal Year 2011 Continuing Budget Resolution. Yes, this was disallowed (it should be noted that this method is used and has
succeeded without objection in the past).
Does this mean that H.R.589 is dead… NO!
This was but one of many methods that are being used to move H.R.589 along. The bill is still alive and in Committee.
H.R.589 is still gaining support, and it is imperative that you continue to focus your efforts on those House Members that comprise the Rules Committee, The Ways and Means Committee, and Representatives Bohener and
Cantor. It goes without saying that you should continue to reach out to your House Representatives.
I have again been asked to pass along the message that your appreciation for those in support of
H.R. 589 is recognized, but that there is no need to call and thank those already on board. It is preferred that you focus your attention and efforts upon those who are net yet supporting this bill.
Rep. Lee and others in the House are still fighting hard to legislate H.R. 589 and so should each of you.
DO NOT become discouraged based upon rumor, opinion, or the words of individuals who do not have direct dialogue with those directly involved in this process.
For additional and or updated information, please visit the American 99ers Union website.
Update from the 99ers Union, February 25, 2011:
H.R. 589 now has 69 Co-Sponsors and the list is growing.
In the early morning hours, Rep. Barbara Lee did attempt to attach H.R. 589 to the Fiscal Year 2011 Continuing Budget Resolution. Yes, this was disallowed (it should be noted that this method is used and has
succeeded without objection in the past).
Does this mean that H.R.589 is dead… NO!
This was but one of many methods that are being used to move H.R.589 along. The bill is still alive and in Committee.
H.R.589 is still gaining support, and it is imperative that you continue to focus your efforts on those House Members that comprise the Rules Committee, The Ways and Means Committee, and Representatives Bohener and
Cantor. It goes without saying that you should continue to reach out to your House Representatives.
I have again been asked to pass along the message that your appreciation for those in support of
H.R. 589 is recognized, but that there is no need to call and thank those already on board. It is preferred that you focus your attention and efforts upon those who are net yet supporting this bill.
Rep. Lee and others in the House are still fighting hard to legislate H.R. 589 and so should each of you.
DO NOT become discouraged based upon rumor, opinion, or the words of individuals who do not have direct dialogue with those directly involved in this process.
For additional and or updated information, please visit the American 99ers Union website.
Update from the 99ers Union, February 25, 2011:
H.R. 589 now has 69 Co-Sponsors and the list is growing.
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REINTRODUCTION OF THE EMERGENCY UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION EXPANSION ACT IS A REALITY...
by Jobless_in_Ma Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:09 am
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by gettheminNOVEMBER Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:06 pm
Just because they are off this week does NOT mean we can take a break keep calling and urge others to do so.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:08 pm
URGENT
Update from the 99er's Union
February 21, 2011
The Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed legislation to cut $60-billion plus from hundreds of federal programs early Saturday. The measure faces a great deal of oppositon in the Democratic-controlled Senate. In addition to contacting those House members already provided, we suggest contacting your Senators and requesting that any compromises made on this legislation, must include the passage of H.R.589.
Contact your Senators!
www.senate.gov
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by gettheminNOVEMBER Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:13 pm
I am going to plaster 99er sites with this info.
People are fired up this week I am getting tons of feedback. Please people reach out to others.
People are fired up this week I am getting tons of feedback. Please people reach out to others.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by ET Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:52 pm
Sent emails to Boehner, Sen. Rubio, Rep. Bilirakis. Used the american 99erunion letter.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:54 pm
ET wrote:Sent emails to Boehner, Sen. Rubio, Rep. Bilirakis. Used the american 99erunion letter.
I'll post the link to the thread it is on.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:57 pm
DesperateInRI wrote:ET wrote:Sent emails to Boehner, Sen. Rubio, Rep. Bilirakis. Used the american 99erunion letter.
I'll post the link to the thread it is on.
It is requested that when you contact your Senators, please use the American 99er Union letter that you have sent to your Representatives; just change references from "Representative" to "Senator".
Here is the link:
https://unemployed-friends.forumotion.com/t184-american-99er-s-union-letter-of-support-for-hr-589-write-to-your-reps#1100
Write to both of your Senators!www.senate.gov
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:21 pm
I just don't see this bill passing through Congress. While it will pass through the House of Representatives, there's no chance of the Senate passing it and then President Obama has threatened to veto the bill.
How about the Democrats get Republicans to pass S.3706 if they agree to pass S.3706? That sounds like a great deal.
How about the Democrats get Republicans to pass S.3706 if they agree to pass S.3706? That sounds like a great deal.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by lendmeflight2 Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:37 pm
This budget will never pass the president, even if help for the 99ers is on it.
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HR 589 isn't retroactive, is it?
by Iyar Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:42 pm
The descriptions of HR 589 that I've read say that it's retroactive.
For example : "Would add 14 weeks to the first tier of unemployment insurance benefits and make the new weeks available retroactively to all unemployed workers who have exhausted all of their benefits."
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h589/show
But in the official text of the bill it says :
"SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.
The amendments made by this Act shall take effect as if included in the enactment of the Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010 (Public Law 111-205), except that no additional first-tier emergency unemployment compensation shall be payable by virtue of the amendments made by section 2(a) with respect to any week of unemployment commencing before the date of the enactment of this Act."
Doesn't that mean that no weeks will be paid retroactively?
For example : "Would add 14 weeks to the first tier of unemployment insurance benefits and make the new weeks available retroactively to all unemployed workers who have exhausted all of their benefits."
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h589/show
But in the official text of the bill it says :
"SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.
The amendments made by this Act shall take effect as if included in the enactment of the Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010 (Public Law 111-205), except that no additional first-tier emergency unemployment compensation shall be payable by virtue of the amendments made by section 2(a) with respect to any week of unemployment commencing before the date of the enactment of this Act."
Doesn't that mean that no weeks will be paid retroactively?
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:50 pm
It's not retroactive to the point where you get one check for 14 weeks. It's just retroactive to the point where, since it's added to Tier 1, that it allows all 99ers to collect those weeks from Tier 1.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by sune Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:59 pm
I would be elated to have some money at this point- 
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by TomW Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:04 am
Yes, just as kemcha said above. So, if the bill goes into effect beginning May 1, 2011 and you are a 99er, you would begin collecting your payments as of May 1 and continuing on for 14 weeks, and you would not collect for any weeks prior to May 1.Iyar wrote:The descriptions of HR 589 that I've read say that it's retroactive.
For example : "Would add 14 weeks to the first tier of unemployment insurance benefits and make the new weeks available retroactively to all unemployed workers who have exhausted all of their benefits."
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h589/show
But in the official text of the bill it says :
"SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.
The amendments made by this Act shall take effect as if included in the enactment of the Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010 (Public Law 111-205), except that no additional first-tier emergency unemployment compensation shall be payable by virtue of the amendments made by section 2(a) with respect to any week of unemployment commencing before the date of the enactment of this Act."
Doesn't that mean that no weeks will be paid retroactively?
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:07 am
Maybe I can explain it a little better.
If HR589 is passed, the bill says that the benefits are retroactive. Since the bill would add 14 weeks to Tier 1, the retroactive portion of the bill allows various states to apply those extra 14 weeks that are added to Tier 1 and allow the 99ers to be placed back into Tier 1 until those 14 weeks are exhausted. Once those 14 weeks are exhausted, and no further bills are passed, that would mark the end of your Federally funded unemployment extensions.
If HR589 is passed, the bill says that the benefits are retroactive. Since the bill would add 14 weeks to Tier 1, the retroactive portion of the bill allows various states to apply those extra 14 weeks that are added to Tier 1 and allow the 99ers to be placed back into Tier 1 until those 14 weeks are exhausted. Once those 14 weeks are exhausted, and no further bills are passed, that would mark the end of your Federally funded unemployment extensions.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by ET Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:56 pm
Absolutely...must do it now. And tomorrow, and the next day, etc.
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:58 pm
ET wrote:Absolutely...must do it now. And tomorrow, and the next day, etc.
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Simple, true and right to the point! Well said, Ellen!
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:48 pm
DesperateInRI wrote:URGENT
Update from the 99er's Union
February 21, 2011
The Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed legislation to cut $60-billion plus from hundreds of federal programs early Saturday. The measure faces a great deal of oppositon in the Democratic-controlled Senate. In addition to contacting those House members already provided, we suggest contacting your Senators and requesting that any compromises made on this legislation, must include the passage of H.R.589.
Contact your Senators!
www.senate.gov
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by ET Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:32 pm
Here is the response from Bilirakis:
Wed, February 23, 2011 5:15:47 PM
A message from the office of Congressman Gus Bilirakis
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From:
Congressman Gus Bilirakis <fl09ima@mail.house.gov>
Dear Ellen:
Thank you for contacting me to express your support for the creation of an additional tier of emergency unemployment compensation benefits. I appreciate hearing from you.
Unfortunately, the unemployment rate in Florida is one of the highest in the nation. That is why I supported extending jobless benefits for those Americans hit hardest by the recent economic downturn. I voted for H.R. 3548, the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act, which would provide up to 20 additional weeks of jobless benefits to unemployed Americans, when it came to a House vote on September 22, 2009. After passing both legislative chambers, this bill was signed into law by President Obama on November 6, 2009. Also, I voted in favor of H.R. 3326, the FY 2010 Department of Defense Appropriations Act, on December 16, 2009. H.R. 3326 extended the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program (EUC08) for two months through February 28, 2010, and was signed into law on December 19, 2009.
The Middle Class Tax Relief Act (H.R.4853), which was recently passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama, provides for a 13-month extension of the EUC program. The act does not include the creation of a new tier, change the structure of the program, or augment benefits. Instead, it merely provides funding for the existing EUC08 program until June 9, 2012, at which time it will expire. This bill passed the House by a vote of 277 to 148 on December 17 and was signed into law by President Obama that same day.
Very generally, states offer 26 weeks of benefits to qualified unemployed workers before four tiers (maximum) of federal benefits — dubbed Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) – kick in. Tier I (20 weeks) and Tier II (13 weeks) were created by last year's $787 billion stimulus bill. H.R. 3548, which I voted for last fall, added an extra week to Tier 2, making it 14 weeks instead of 13 weeks, created Tier III (13 weeks) for states with unemployment rates higher than 6 percent, and created Tier IV (6 weeks) for states with unemployment rates topping 8.5 percent. If an individual qualifies for both the maximum of state-paid benefits under the Unemployment Compensation program as well as the maximum of benefits under the EUC program, that person could collect a maximum of 99 weeks of unemployment compensation benefits.
As America continues to recover from its lengthy recession, I understand that there are serious difficulties facing the chronically and long-term unemployed. Currently, emergency federal unemployment benefits, when combined with state unemployment programs, have provided out-of-work Floridians with a maximum of 99 weeks of financial assistance. At this time, however, I am unaware of any pending legislation that would add an additional tier to the federal emergency unemployment program. Please be assured that I will keep your specific thoughts in mind if legislation to add a fifth tier of benefits is considered in Congress.
As a resident of Florida's Ninth District, your comments and opinions are an important source of information to help me carry out my duties as your federal representative. In that regard, please do not hesitate to contact me in the future on any issue important to you. Also, if you would like to be informed more frequently about my work in Congress and in Florida's Ninth Congressional District, please visit my website at http://www.bilirakis.house.gov to sign up for regular email or to send me a message.
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.
Sincerely yours,
Gus M. Bilirakis
Member of Congress
Wed, February 23, 2011 5:15:47 PM
A message from the office of Congressman Gus Bilirakis
...
From:
Congressman Gus Bilirakis <fl09ima@mail.house.gov>
Dear Ellen:
Thank you for contacting me to express your support for the creation of an additional tier of emergency unemployment compensation benefits. I appreciate hearing from you.
Unfortunately, the unemployment rate in Florida is one of the highest in the nation. That is why I supported extending jobless benefits for those Americans hit hardest by the recent economic downturn. I voted for H.R. 3548, the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act, which would provide up to 20 additional weeks of jobless benefits to unemployed Americans, when it came to a House vote on September 22, 2009. After passing both legislative chambers, this bill was signed into law by President Obama on November 6, 2009. Also, I voted in favor of H.R. 3326, the FY 2010 Department of Defense Appropriations Act, on December 16, 2009. H.R. 3326 extended the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program (EUC08) for two months through February 28, 2010, and was signed into law on December 19, 2009.
The Middle Class Tax Relief Act (H.R.4853), which was recently passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama, provides for a 13-month extension of the EUC program. The act does not include the creation of a new tier, change the structure of the program, or augment benefits. Instead, it merely provides funding for the existing EUC08 program until June 9, 2012, at which time it will expire. This bill passed the House by a vote of 277 to 148 on December 17 and was signed into law by President Obama that same day.
Very generally, states offer 26 weeks of benefits to qualified unemployed workers before four tiers (maximum) of federal benefits — dubbed Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) – kick in. Tier I (20 weeks) and Tier II (13 weeks) were created by last year's $787 billion stimulus bill. H.R. 3548, which I voted for last fall, added an extra week to Tier 2, making it 14 weeks instead of 13 weeks, created Tier III (13 weeks) for states with unemployment rates higher than 6 percent, and created Tier IV (6 weeks) for states with unemployment rates topping 8.5 percent. If an individual qualifies for both the maximum of state-paid benefits under the Unemployment Compensation program as well as the maximum of benefits under the EUC program, that person could collect a maximum of 99 weeks of unemployment compensation benefits.
As America continues to recover from its lengthy recession, I understand that there are serious difficulties facing the chronically and long-term unemployed. Currently, emergency federal unemployment benefits, when combined with state unemployment programs, have provided out-of-work Floridians with a maximum of 99 weeks of financial assistance. At this time, however, I am unaware of any pending legislation that would add an additional tier to the federal emergency unemployment program. Please be assured that I will keep your specific thoughts in mind if legislation to add a fifth tier of benefits is considered in Congress.
As a resident of Florida's Ninth District, your comments and opinions are an important source of information to help me carry out my duties as your federal representative. In that regard, please do not hesitate to contact me in the future on any issue important to you. Also, if you would like to be informed more frequently about my work in Congress and in Florida's Ninth Congressional District, please visit my website at http://www.bilirakis.house.gov to sign up for regular email or to send me a message.
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.
Sincerely yours,
Gus M. Bilirakis
Member of Congress
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by lennon5 Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:13 pm
So R we being lied too????????????????
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Re: 589 the real story. **UPDATED 3/7/11**
by Guest Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:33 pm
No, we are not being lied to so don't panic. This is a standard form letter. Realistically there is no bill for a new tier, (besides s3706 that is now dead as far as I know) there is a bill to add weeks for an existing tier. HR 589 adds weeks to tier 1.
Don't let this get you all down. It is frustrating however to know that some of our reps just arent paying attention!!
Don't let this get you all down. It is frustrating however to know that some of our reps just arent paying attention!!
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