Occupy Wall Street Global Movement News, Updates, and Your Thoughts

As we reported earlier, the city is coming in to clean Zuccotti Park tomorrow whether Occupy Wall Street likes it or not. (They don't). And now they're stepping up their response another notch: Ray Kelly told reporters that "People will have to remove all their belongings and leave the park." Not only that, they won't be allowed to bring back camping gear or even lie down, thus ending the sleeping part of the occupation. Things might get messy, since OWS shows no signs of giving in.

They've put out an "EMERGENCY CALL TO ACTION: Prevent the forcible closure of Occupy Wall Street!" and are urging people to go to Zuccotti at 6 a.m. tomorrow for "non-violent eviction defense."

ranbrow123 wrote:

tristen303 wrote:And so ends the movement, as I have said before when the protests become unfocused, unresponsive and more interested into trying to stay in the headlines then heading to police requests the movement and those associated with it are doomed.
It’s too bad, if they would have just stuck with the jobs issue instead of corporate greed, native American injustices and my favorite rant the demise of capitalism then the public would have been more on board then on the sidelines…now watch the public turn; good job Oakland you blew it.

Not enough regular people supporting it to make it a revolution and to the assclown in the picture guess what “Nobody is scared about making you angrier”

I'd lay you 2:1 you're wrong and tell you flat out you'd be a sucker to take it.

tristen303 wrote:http://www.gallup.com/poll/150164/americans-uncertain-occupy-wall-street-goals.aspx

I'll take those odds, the more the protests turn like Oakland or become dis-respectful the more the UNDECIDED MAJORITY will turn and then add that group to those disapproving and that's that. If it was just about the UE instead of the World wide global BS (at least here in the states) it would have had a chance but now....no; the more those types of videos come in the more will turn.

Trying for headlines and to remain relevant is not trying for change

gettheminNOVEMBER wrote:

tristen303 wrote:http://www.gallup.com/poll/150164/americans-uncertain-occupy-wall-street-goals.aspx

I'll take those odds, the more the protests turn like Oakland or become dis-respectful the more the UNDECIDED MAJORITY will turn and then add that group to those disapproving and that's that. If it was just about the UE instead of the World wide global BS (at least here in the states) it would have had a chance but now....no; the more those types of videos come in the more will turn.

Trying for headlines and to remain relevant is not trying for change

Who is left to be the undecided majority? Those with jobs? Because more layoffs are coming? This is somthing you can't wrap you head around because it means so many different things to so many different people.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances"

Its their right to speak. The harder the cops push the harder the people push back. Its been like that since day one.

JoanB wrote:So....more Americans approve than disapprove...with most just not sure yet, which means of course that they don't support them at all. And you're sure now that the police have attacked the protesters, it's a foregone conclusion that everyone will decide that the protesters are bad.

Okiedokie...I guess just don't get the logic of The Really Serious Grown-Up People.

HEADS UP NYC #OWS has #WeAreOakland solidarity march scheduled for 9PM tonight; leaving from Zucotti Plaza #OccupyOakland #OccupyWallStreet

tristen303 wrote:No you just don't follow logic (the majority has no opinion); you follow your ideology and find whatever thread no matter how slight to support whatever supports your ideology whether wrong or otherwise.
We had a real chance to make a difference by showing at the very least the 99ers and amount of people that were UE, but instead it became corporate greed, globalism, immigration rights and every other BS complaint that didn’t do anything for us.
And it’s always the cops isn’t it, never any protestor, having been (from being in the military) in riot control situations you have no idea what it’s like, how scared you are and that in the end your outnumbered and that it can go from bad to worse in a snap so show a little of that liberal compassion they are just doing their jobs.

This is why the “movement” is suddenly stirring the pot

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/25/us-protests-idUSTRE79N61O20111025

We should have had some adults with our real issues take control (instead of all the BS grievances being displayed) now we’ll all be pegged as the same idiots that started the trouble.

We have real grievances that ALL Americans would understand and support, we need to take control of the “movement” before more assclowns screw it up.

tristen303 wrote:http://www.gallup.com/poll/150164/americans-uncertain-occupy-wall-street-goals.aspx

I'll take those odds, the more the protests turn like Oakland or become dis-respectful the more the UNDECIDED MAJORITY will turn and then add that group to those disapproving and that's that. If it was just about the UE instead of the World wide global BS (at least here in the states) it would have had a chance but now....no; the more those types of videos come in the more will turn.

Trying for headlines and to remain relevant is not trying for change

mistermunster wrote:

gettheminNOVEMBER wrote:

tristen303 wrote:http://www.gallup.com/poll/150164/americans-uncertain-occupy-wall-street-goals.aspx

I'll take those odds, the more the protests turn like Oakland or become dis-respectful the more the UNDECIDED MAJORITY will turn and then add that group to those disapproving and that's that. If it was just about the UE instead of the World wide global BS (at least here in the states) it would have had a chance but now....no; the more those types of videos come in the more will turn.

Trying for headlines and to remain relevant is not trying for change

Who is left to be the undecided majority? Those with jobs? Because more layoffs are coming? This is somthing you can't wrap you head around because it means so many different things to so many different people.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances"

Its their right to speak. The harder the cops push the harder the people push back. Its been like that since day one.

Just look at the OTHER empires of the past. The RICH and wealthy PUSHED the people too far in each instance. Today is NO different.

tristen303 wrote:I don't want to get you, I want you and America to stand up and support the UE and especially the 99ers and the living hell they have been put through. Nothing compares to them or what they are going through period. Having these other BS grievances taking precedent over them F**K THAT! They can keep those BS grievances on the college campuses where they belong.

Were adults out of work and out of time


As for being scared, scared of what? those idoits? They are playing right into their hands take off the rose colored glasses.

tristen303 wrote:Infiltration scheme wow lol stop being paranoid, as for the “Look their scared, look were scaring them” postings I was a Repub and my friends are and still work within the party and I can attest that none are scared. To be even clearer they actually think it's funny and couldn't wait for the protestors to not listen to police and start getting f**ked up by them, those are facts but keep saying the right is scared....they are not.
They want what is actually happening right now. They want to put the hurt on the protests and had to wait for the idiots protesting to give them justification (which they just did).
As for morale I fought in a war, served in ground operations and my morale was lowest when people liedto us or tried to humor us vs. giving us actual facts.
If the movement is that fragile then we’ve got more to worry about then keeping their spirits up; it would mean they have no heart or true conviction.

JoanB wrote:Note to Occupiers: when the revolution comes, make sure to listen to the guy who stayed Republican through 8 years of Cheney/Bush and all the way up to...um...was it two weeks ago(?) when he decided to switch(?). Do it the way he says because he has a track record of being right.

tristen303 wrote:Infiltration scheme wow lol stop being paranoid, as for the “Look their scared, look were scaring them” postings I was a Repub and my friends are and still work within the party and I can attest that none are scared. To be even clearer they actually think it's funny and couldn't wait for the protestors to not listen to police and start getting f**ked up by them, those are facts but keep saying the right is scared....they are not.
They want what is actually happening right now. They want to put the hurt on the protests and had to wait for the idiots protesting to give them justification (which they just did).
As for morale I fought in a war, served in ground operations and my morale was lowest when people liedto us or tried to humor us vs. giving us actual facts.
If the movement is that fragile then we’ve got more to worry about then keeping their spirits up; it would mean they have no heart or true conviction.

tristen303 wrote:You should you might actually learn something. I can tell you one thing I’ve learned, the hardest part about the change has been having to sit in “Progressive” meetings and listening to how smart everyone in the room is and how dumb the rest of the country is and then to how much crap I have to take for switching to the party open to ideals and everyone.

As for the revolution let's hope it doesn't come to that because you can’t afford those lessons.

To all you battled hardened revolutionaries in waiting getting bolder and bolder with each keystroke hiding behind your computers just remember: War and Revolution is sweet to those not acquainted with it.

tristen303 wrote:It doesn't matter getthem I feel stupid for believing that they were for the UE and long term UE I feel like a fool. I should have known better I’m not into the whole anti-globalization and all the other BS that took us off msg.
You don’t understand, I knew this was how it was going to end up, the party I left wanted this and hoped for it and got it. Now watch what happens, having been in Iraq I watched all kinds of protests even broke some up and the difference in being one that had relevance vs. being just an angry mob was focus and msg.
The UE situation and long term UE is noble and just, something all Americans could sympathize with. We got hijacked in my opinion and now it’s all screwed up and even supported by people on here who rather then fixing it are just as excited to have a revolution.
I saw a chance at real change, now the msg is lost and once again the sides are being drawn; I’m sick of it.