HR589 Meeting Update: Is the meeting still on? NO!! Cancelled due to Shutdown!!

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Is the meeting still on? YES. Boehner has to be in the Oval Office at the White House today at 1 p.m. As of the time I hit the PUBLISH button for this post it is ON… will update later…. Once again, there is a budget war raging in the background and political tension is high as you can see on CNN and MSNBC. Regardless, the friendship between Rep. Scott and fellow Virginian, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor will help… as will the focus of Rep. Lee.

Rep. Lee understands that if the bill is designated as an “emergency” finding funding is unnecessary. Can the White House be convinced that’s a good idea? Sources say they already have been. Did CBC Chairman Emanuel Cleaver think of this at the White House meeting last week? No… but that was then. This is now.

http://www.crewof42.com/?p=5237

I dont think their clowns........ I think their elected criminals........both parties.

4got10 wrote:In the midst of severe budget cuts, government shut downs, republican resistance and, a slowly declining unemployment rate, how does anyone find the strength to continue to believe the 99ers will suddenly start receiving unemployment benefits after one year without them?

We are multiplying quickly and won't be a hidden sector of society much longer. Also, after giving tax credits to corporations on the premise of job creation, and then ignoring it for 92 days now, they have no choice.

Woof wrote:I dont think their clowns........ I think their elected criminals........both parties.

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DesperateInRI wrote:
We are multiplying quickly and won't be a hidden sector of society much longer. Also, after giving tax credits to corporations on the premise of job creation, and then ignoring it for 92 days now, they have no choice.

You think? I don't.

You know, for 2 years now I've noticed EVERY TIME unemployment extensions come up in any form, THEY ALWAYS get DISTRACTED by something else.

DesperateInRI wrote:

laine25 wrote:We have elected a bunch of clowns!!!!!

You mean him ------------------>>>>

CLOWNS ARE SCARY!!!! Especially the Stephen King kind and DC is FULL of them!!!!

Often on these forums I have read people get mad and say "I wont even vote in the next election! That will teach them!". This DOES NOT make any sense at all. The correct thing to do would be to vote and get the idiot out of office (whoever you dislike). Last election only 75 million people voted. Think about how many unemployed people are out there. What if every single one of them voted? That could really upset the election. Time to get the clowns out. A lot of these guys running around in politics are basically con men who conned their way to where they are. You know how madoff conned a lot of people and made billions of dollars? Thats our society today, con men get ahead while honest hard working people get left behind. We need to vote these CON MEN out of office.

I always vote and honesty if Reps or Dem (Obama) grant the H.R.589 I think I will vote for this party next time, because they saved my life. If it doesn't pass in the next two weeks I am Moderated anyway and can't vote anymore and wont.




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Feyth wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:Can the White House be convinced that’s a good idea? Sources say they already have been. - Update from the Crew of 42!

No matter what the naysayers say, this is hopeful news. I'd say the fact that Obama is addressing unemployment among blacks in his speech today is also hopeful. Perhaps he has been waiting to act until he had announced his 2012 presidential run.

So you're OK with Obama making the 99ers suffer for past year waiting for the right time more beneficial to him?

mistermunster wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:

laine25 wrote:We have elected a bunch of clowns!!!!!

You mean him ------------------>>>>

CLOWNS ARE SCARY!!!! Especially the Stephen King kind and DC is FULL of them!!!!

Stephen King's clown wasn't as scary as the "Its" in DC!

4got10 wrote:

Feyth wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:Can the White House be convinced that’s a good idea? Sources say they already have been. - Update from the Crew of 42!

No matter what the naysayers say, this is hopeful news. I'd say the fact that Obama is addressing unemployment among blacks in his speech today is also hopeful. Perhaps he has been waiting to act until he had announced his 2012 presidential run.

So you're OK with Obama making the 99ers suffer for past year waiting for the right time more beneficial to him?

Last I knew the President doesn't make the laws, Congress does.

4got10 wrote:

Feyth wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:Can the White House be convinced that’s a good idea? Sources say they already have been. - Update from the Crew of 42!

No matter what the naysayers say, this is hopeful news. I'd say the fact that Obama is addressing unemployment among blacks in his speech today is also hopeful. Perhaps he has been waiting to act until he had announced his 2012 presidential run.

So you're OK with Obama making the 99ers suffer for past year waiting for the right time more beneficial to him?

NO, oh man I don't know anymore, I can't clear my mind. Everyday I hope I get an invitation for an interview, but nada, nothing. And 3 out of 10 jobs I apply turning out as scams.

Agent Smith wrote:I always vote and honesty if Reps or Dem (Obama) grant the H.R.589 I think I will vote for this party next time, because they saved my life. If it doesn't pass in the next two weeks I am Moderated anyway and can't vote anymore and wont.

How would $300.00 per week for only 14 weeks tithe you over until the 2012 elections? After the hypothetical 14 weeks expire won't you be Moderated again?


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4got10 wrote:

Agent Smith wrote:I always vote and honesty if Reps or Dem (Obama) grant the H.R.589 I think I will vote for this party next time, because they saved my life. If it doesn't pass in the next two weeks I am Moderated anyway and can't vote anymore and wont.

How would $300.00 per week for only 14 weeks tithe you over until the 2012 elections? After the hypothetical 14 weeks expire won't you be Moderated again?


Please read the forum rules regarding vulgarities.

The "hypothetical 14 weeks" would put gas in your car in the very rare case you had an interview, put food on the table (saving the gov't $200 a month in food stamps) and a roof over your head until warmer weather comes and you are forced to sleep in your car or tent. After that, if the GOP controlled House doesn't do its job and stops giving tax breaks to the rich, we are screwed. I'll bet the Tea Party members would love to see that.

DesperateInRI
Re: The earlier topic you locked.


I’m not trying to be insulting to your nearly 600 members. I am a 99er and understand the challenges especially for the baby boomers. I’m simply trying to investigate the various underlying reasons why this particular recession is not as resilient as past recessions and most importantly, why the government appears to allow this dangerously sluggish recovery to continue and linger. I certainly understand all of the obvious reasons such as inflation, outsourcing, political decisions and inexperienced or self-serving leadership, etc.

I continue to research these determinants and could use your help. I agree with you about how deceiving government data can be and also believe there are many more job applicants jockeying for the same position than was originally reported. I also believe there are many more unemployed which the government is reporting or, aware of. Its very possible there can be as many as 20 million unemployed and underemployed workers. I think we can also both agree there might even be more than 7 million current 99ers.
This is my most important question I have for you.” WHERE ARE THEY ALL”? I have been scanning all of the appropriate web sites to collect an unofficial total of all in support for some variation of extended benefits and can only gather approximately (1000) supporters. To be honest, I find these results both dismal and mystifying. Remember this fight has been going on now for over a year, (S3706, HR3548, HR4213). I would be thrilled if you could help me with this quandary. Please note that I refuse to believe that 7 million 99ers (using the government totals) lol, have all lost access to the Internet or a some means to contact their congressperson.
Sincerely,
4got10

A lot of people just give up instead of fighting. I think thats whats going on with most 99ers. They would rather sit back and let other people fight. Not get "involved".

DesperateInRI wrote:

4got10 wrote:

Feyth wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:Can the White House be convinced that’s a good idea? Sources say they already have been. - Update from the Crew of 42!

No matter what the naysayers say, this is hopeful news. I'd say the fact that Obama is addressing unemployment among blacks in his speech today is also hopeful. Perhaps he has been waiting to act until he had announced his 2012 presidential run.

So you're OK with Obama making the 99ers suffer for past year waiting for the right time more beneficial to him?

Last I knew the President doesn't make the laws, Congress does.

I think the poster I replied to was referring to the emergency paygo rules? This is one of those rare occassions when the president CAN "make the laws" and does not need congress.

hello wrote:A lot of people just give up instead of fighting. I think thats whats going on with most 99ers. They would rather sit back and let other people fight. Not get "involved".

You are involved by definition if you are a 99er. If you choose not to fight or vote you get what ya get thats all. Can't complain about what you did not fight for. So stand UP fight BACK and inspire others to join the fight.

hello wrote:A lot of people just give up instead of fighting. I think thats whats going on with most 99ers. They would rather sit back and let other people fight. Not get "involved".

Excactly

4got10 wrote:DesperateInRI
Re: The earlier topic you locked.


I’m not trying to be insulting to your nearly 600 members. I am a 99er and understand the challenges especially for the baby boomers. I’m simply trying to investigate the various underlying reasons why this particular recession is not as resilient as past recessions and most importantly, why the government appears to allow this dangerously sluggish recovery to continue and linger. I certainly understand all of the obvious reasons such as inflation, outsourcing, political decisions and inexperienced or self-serving leadership, etc.

I continue to research these determinants and could use your help. I agree with you about how deceiving government data can be and also believe there are many more job applicants jockeying for the same position than was originally reported. I also believe there are many more unemployed which the government is reporting or, aware of. Its very possible there can be as many as 20 million unemployed and underemployed workers. I think we can also both agree there might even be more than 7 million current 99ers.
This is my most important question I have for you.” WHERE ARE THEY ALL”? I have been scanning all of the appropriate web sites to collect an unofficial total of all in support for some variation of extended benefits and can only gather approximately (1000) supporters. To be honest, I find these results both dismal and mystifying. Remember this fight has been going on now for over a year, (S3706, HR3548, HR4213). I would be thrilled if you could help me with this quandary. Please note that I refuse to believe that 7 million 99ers (using the government totals) lol, have all lost access to the Internet or a some means to contact their congressperson.
Sincerely,
4got10

One way to find out where the 99ers are would be to work with the person who is trying to create a National Database to get a fairly accurate count, as well as try to organize for local rallies. This thread may provide some information you need in your research.

Good luck! It would be great to have an accurate count, however, in my opinion many have lost hope.

http://www.unemployed-friends2.org/t1228-if-you-are-a-99er-please-be-counted-to-organize-locally-with-99ers-in-your-area-to-support-hr-589

Agent Smith wrote:

hello wrote:A lot of people just give up instead of fighting. I think thats whats going on with most 99ers. They would rather sit back and let other people fight. Not get "involved".

Excactly

I wonder if the lack of participation of most 99ers is because some of them are republicans. Let’s face it, most if not all the unemployment forums typically lean left while bashing and insulting republicans, just saying!

Gov shut dow ="s double dip recession

troycomic wrote:Gov shut dow ="s double dip recession

You said that right. Even if the shutdown only last a few days or doesn't happen at all, we still are headed into a double dip recession with gas prices on the rise. Here in Chicago some stations are already at $4.50/gal. Some of my neihbors are talking about carpooling just to go buy milk.

4got10 wrote:

Agent Smith wrote:

hello wrote:A lot of people just give up instead of fighting. I think thats whats going on with most 99ers. They would rather sit back and let other people fight. Not get "involved".

Excactly

I wonder if the lack of participation of most 99ers is because some of them are republicans. Let’s face it, most if not all the unemployment forums typically lean left while bashing and insulting republicans, just saying!

These comments are amazing. What lack of participation? Sit back? WTH! IMO, 99ers have been at the forefront of this fight! We have been the most involved and have logged massive amounts of time lobbying for us all---for months. These gross generalizations are insulting and obviously uninformed and I am frankly shocked to find such comments here.