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Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
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Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
I rejoined the unemployed in June and just visited this page for the first time today. I noticed some misinformation about Federal EUC and wanted to correct. As of Dec 29th, if you have been receiving benefits for longer than 26 weeks, you will not get any more payments. I sure hope the lame duck congress will do something for once. It would be awful if they didn't...especially after/during the holidays.
JennyPA73- Member
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
No, that is NOT accurate. State EB may end regardless of you balance, but EU08 is being phased out. You CAN finish the tier you are on as of December 29. I believe the final benefits will be stopped in April, 2013.
Please see the UNEMPLOYED WORKERS.org website for more information on this phase out. Click on the link on the left side of the homepage (Links to Affiliates and Resources). This group is an affiliate of the National Employment Law Project (NELP).
Please see the UNEMPLOYED WORKERS.org website for more information on this phase out. Click on the link on the left side of the homepage (Links to Affiliates and Resources). This group is an affiliate of the National Employment Law Project (NELP).
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
DesperateInRI wrote:No, that is NOT accurate. State EB may end regardless of you balance, but EU08 is being phased out. You CAN finish the tier you are on as of December 29. I believe the final benefits will be stopped in April, 2013.
Please see the UNEMPLOYED WORKERS.org website for more information on this phase out. Click on the link on the left side of the homepage (Links to Affiliates and Resources). This group is an affiliate of the National Employment Law Project (NELP).
This quote is directly pasted from PA's Department of Labor and Industry page in regards to receiving benefits for longer than 26 weeks. After you exhaust the initial weeks from the State and are bumped to Federal EUC, NO BENEFITS ARE PAID AFTER DECEMBER 29TH 2012.
"After week ending Dec. 29, 2012, EUC benefits are not payable regardless of any remaining balance on the claim."
JennyPA73- Member
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Jenny, what you say is the case. But I know that I saw what Desp is referring to on several websites earlier in the year. I think it was bad info on the sites.
macky
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Thanks Macky. I just wanted to make sure everyone is clear on this issue. Congress seems willing to compromise, so hopefully we won't have to worry about this.
JennyPA73- Member
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Congress is not going to compromise on unemployment extensions. The way it was set up to phase out was very complicated and almost impossible to reinstate without complete chaos.
When this bill was signed into law in February, it was incorrectly reported by major news papers, as well as NELP, that it would phase out in stages and totally end on Dec.29; however you could finish the tier you were on at that time. As we know now, that is incorrect. Thousands have already lost benefits since July 1. This is what was released on February 23, 2012 regarding the phase out of EUC08.
I urge everyone who is currently collecting extended benefits to take the Dec. 29 cut-off seriously and PREPARE! Having been through this so many times in the past, I can tell you from experience, THERE IS NO POLITICAL WILL IN WASHINGTON TO EXTEND THE DEADLINES FOR EUC08 THIS YEAR!!!!
When this bill was signed into law in February, it was incorrectly reported by major news papers, as well as NELP, that it would phase out in stages and totally end on Dec.29; however you could finish the tier you were on at that time. As we know now, that is incorrect. Thousands have already lost benefits since July 1. This is what was released on February 23, 2012 regarding the phase out of EUC08.
The new legislation, enacted February 22, 2012, applies to weeks beginning March 4, 2012 - ending January 5, 2013. The legislation extends eligibility/expiration dates. The old Feb 25/Mar 3 dates no longer apply. Ignore outdated information on state websites.
1. Can I still collect federal benefits under this latest federal legislation?
Eligibility dates have been extended to the end of 2012. If state benefits are exhausted not later than December 22, 2012, or EUC Tier benefits not later than December 29, 2012, you are eligible to move to the next EUC tier and/or Extended Benefits (EB). Once transitioned to a tier, that tier's benefits can be exhausted in its entirety past the expiration date of January 2, 2013, but not later than June 30, 2013. EB payments end as per below. After October 13, it is estimated no state will be paying EB (Extended Benefits).
2. Relevant Federal Eligibility Dates:
December 22, 2012- Exhaust state benefits to transition to Tier 1
December 29, 2012 - Exhaust one Tier to transition to next Tier
April 7 - October 13, 2012 - EB Payments cease, depending on state, regardless of balance remaining - See EB info and NELP Projected Dates by state - http://www.city-data.com/forum/23011159-post3.html
January 2, 2013 - Expiration date of Legislation
June 30, 2013 - Last date Tier benefits can be paid
3. Extended Benefits FIX - March-May 2012: If a state has triggered off EB between March and May due to lookback, Tier IV has been expanded by an additional 10 weeks, for a total of 16 weeks, provided:
Your state triggered off EB between March-May 2012; and
3-month average UE rate in your state is 8.5%, or above (per BLS); and
You are collecting or will be collecting Tier IV benefits on or after your state triggers off between March-May 2012; and
You have exhausted Tier III on or before 5/26/12 [TBV].
Warning: If you are collecting EB at the time your state triggers off - even if it is only one week - your EB benefits end per BLS end payable period. You are not entitled to EB fix of 10 extra weeks. (some states may possibly ignore this - unlikely)
4. EUC June-December - New UE Rate Triggers - effective week beginning June 3, 2012.
Tier I - 0% (no change)
Tier II – 6% - new trigger
Tier III - 7% - 1% increase
Tier IV - 9% - 1% increase
Last date to exhaust benefits and move to a tier under the existing/old UE rate is
5/19 - state benefits
5/26 - tier benefits
If you are currently collecting a tier, you are grandfathered to the old rate that existed for that tier prior to June 3 and can exhaust that tier beyond June.
5. EUC September-December - Tiers Reconfigured - effective week beginning September 2, 2012.
14 weeks - Tier I (reduced 6 weeks)
14 weeks - Tier II (no change)
09 weeks - Tier III (reduced 4 weeks)
10 weeks - Tier IV (increased 4 weeks)
Last date to exhaust benefits and move to a tier under the old configuration 20 wks/Tier 1, 14 wks/Tier II, 6 wks/Tier IV, is:
8/18 - state benefits
8/25 - tier benefits
If you are currently collecting a tier, you are grandfathered to the length of that tier which existed for that tier prior to September 2 and can exhaust that tier beyond September.
6. EUC Benefit Calculation is based on original monetary determination of claim as follows:
Through September 1, 2012:
Tier 1 - 80% of original benefit amount
Tier 2 - 54% of original benefit amount
Tier 3 - 50% of original benefit amount
Tier 4 - 24% of original benefit amount
September 2, 2012-January 5, 2013:*
Tier 1 - 54% of original benefit amount
Tier 2 - 54% of original benefit amount
Tier 3 - 35% of original benefit amount
Tier 4 - 39% of original benefit amount
*For new tier transition only. The benefits for the tier you are currently exhausting prior to September 2 are not affected.
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/unemployment/1461234-unemployment-faqs-euc-credit-highest-extensions.html#ixzz1nFeV3MJJ
I urge everyone who is currently collecting extended benefits to take the Dec. 29 cut-off seriously and PREPARE! Having been through this so many times in the past, I can tell you from experience, THERE IS NO POLITICAL WILL IN WASHINGTON TO EXTEND THE DEADLINES FOR EUC08 THIS YEAR!!!!
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
I've only been receiving for 26 weeks. You really don't think they will extend it? 6 months is hardly enough to find work with all the competition for jobs. What do you mean by chaos? From what I read, the economy is so bad still that an EUC extension is pretty much gonna go through.
JennyPA73- Member
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Jenny, I'm sorry but EUC08 is finished Dec 29, 2012.
Where have you read that "an EUC extension is pretty much gonna go through"? That would be great but it's not in the cards.
Thanks... macky
Where have you read that "an EUC extension is pretty much gonna go through"? That would be great but it's not in the cards.
Thanks... macky
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
if there is any hope at all its changing the filibuster rule, and then theres that miserable bunch in the house.....
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
EUC 08 is over. It will never get out of the House, never mind the Senate filibusters. When the GOP is forced to make some concessions during these budget talks, there is no way in hell they will touch unemployment benefits.
Reauthorizing would be chaos. They changed dates, triggers and weeks when they extended the program in Feb. Many have already been cut off. How will they reinstate benefits? Additional weeks were added to tier 4, will we ALL get those weeks? Times is running out, they are too concerned with other issues in this lame duck session. THIS TIME, WE ARE ALL SCREWED!!
Reauthorizing would be chaos. They changed dates, triggers and weeks when they extended the program in Feb. Many have already been cut off. How will they reinstate benefits? Additional weeks were added to tier 4, will we ALL get those weeks? Times is running out, they are too concerned with other issues in this lame duck session. THIS TIME, WE ARE ALL SCREWED!!
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Good info Macky. Hopefully those that see this, and will be affected by it, will take some action. And forward this to others by social media.
It s a tremendous long shot , but they can try, or sit back and watch them expire.
It s a tremendous long shot , but they can try, or sit back and watch them expire.
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Thanks Nutty. I'll throw it to a separate thread.
macky
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Extensions were mentioned as part of the POTUS plan that Geithner delivered to the Congressional Repugs yesterday.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/republicans-scoff-white-house-fiscal-cliff-opening-bid-235943793--politics.html
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/republicans-scoff-white-house-fiscal-cliff-opening-bid-235943793--politics.html
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
Thanks, nutty! I wonder if we'll get those additional weeks added to tier 4. Right now, for people like us, that's like winning the lottery!
At this point, with millions who have been left with nothing for years, that money would be better off being used for tax incentives to hire the long term unemployed. It's not a temporary fix and WE ALL MIGHT BENEFIT!!
At this point, with millions who have been left with nothing for years, that money would be better off being used for tax incentives to hire the long term unemployed. It's not a temporary fix and WE ALL MIGHT BENEFIT!!
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Re: Regardless of balance, no more benefits after 26 weeks as of December 29, 2012
DesperateInRI wrote:Thanks, nutty! I wonder if we'll get those additional weeks added to tier 4. Right now, for people like us, that's like winning the lottery!
At this point, with millions who have been left with nothing for years, that money would be better off being used for tax incentives to hire the long term unemployed. It's not a temporary fix and WE ALL MIGHT BENEFIT!!
Agreed. What I would really like to see is any more funds, if approved, be put into a pool that employers who hire LTU S could draw from to pay part of the wages, for a six month period.
As far as any extensions, we both know they won t go to us, the forgotten ones. But I don t wish the living hell we call life on anyone that get remaining benefits cut off.
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