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Post by Dazed&Confused on Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:30 am

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FIRST PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE BELOW. IT IS NOT ONLY FOR PENNSYLVANIANS BUT FOR MOST STATES. THEN READ THIS - Please contact Governor Corbett at PA.gov and PA Dept. of L&I's Minority Chair, Senator Christine Tartaglione at her website http://www.senatortartaglione.com/ and plead with them to enact legislation to extend Extended Benefits (EB) ASAP. If anyone can put together a general letter and post it, please do. We are likely to lose EB by May 20th but I do not know what the deadline is for applying to the Federal Government for the Extended Benefits (EB). Remember Pennsylvania is a RED state (Republican Governor) and not likely to want to extend these "free" Federal funds (nuts ain't it). Also any other legislators which you can list from PA, please do and give us their contact information. We must fax, call and email now. We don't have much time and remember THEY SCREWED US OUT OF TIER 4 AND POSSIBLY EB BY TRADING TAX CUTS TO THE RICH FOR AN UNEMPLOYMENT EXTENSION OF 13 MONTHS. HAD WE KNOWN MOST OF US WOULD LOSE EB BY THE MIDDLE OF JULY, WE WOULD HAVE SPIT ON THAT DEAL. AS IT IS TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH ARE NOW PAID FOR BY CUTTING EB. SO PLEASE GET TO IT, WE NEED YOUr HELP. ALSO, PLEASE CHECK YOUR OWN STATE NOW, THEY ARE BEING VERY QUIET ABOUT THIS. MAKES ME WONDER


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On April - 2 - 2011 References at bottom

As more get jobs, those who haven't lose benefits.

The prognosticators are optimistic to the max when it comes to the nations employment situation, as they expect the U.S. Labor Department to report Friday morning that the nations employment expanded by 180,000 to 200,000 in March."Businesses are hiring, and with layoffs being minimal, it appears that the labor market is indeed getting better," said Joel L. Naroff, of Naroff Economics in Bucks County.That optimism scares Sharon Dietrich, a community legal-service lawyer who has long been one of the chief advocates for the unemployed in Pennsylvania.She is concerned because, even if the job market is starting to blossom, 90,000 unemployed Pennsylvanians could soon find themselves ineligible for part of their jobless benefits. That is about one in six of the states unemployed.The first 45,000 will lose their benefits for six weeks, starting Saturday."People without jobs will be even more out of [the publics] mind as the unemployment rate declines and economic optimism increases," Dietrich said."But the statewide unemployment rate is still 8 percent, and thousands of jobless people remain as desperate as if it were the middle of the recession," she said.For technical reasons, the benefits problem is more likely to affect unemployed Pennsylvanians than the jobless in New Jersey and Delaware.And now, a primer on unemployment benefits:In all three states, as in most states, the newly unemployed begin by receiving 26 weeks of state-funded unemployment benefits. Since the recession began in December 2007, the federal government has funded an additional 53 weeks worth of payments, broken up into segments.The last six weeks of the 53 are known as tier four, which are designed to phase out as a states average three-month unemployment rate falls below 8.5 percent.With a 9.2 percent unemployment rate, New Jerseys labor market is still tough enough so its jobless qualify for those six weeks. Delawares rate also qualifies.But Pennsylvanias three-month average just dropped below 8.5 percent, warranting the end of the tier-four benefits.After the regular state and emergency federal benefits run out, there is still one more set of benefits for the long-term unemployed – a 20-week block known as Extended Benefits, now funded by the federal government.These, too, are designed to phase out, state by state, as conditions improve. So, how is improvement measured? The long-standing formula compares a states average unemployment rate for the most recent three months with the same period in 2009. If it is 10 percent higher now, the benefits stay. If not, they vanish.But heres the scenario. In 2009, the unemployment rate was worsening. Now its improving. That means the gap between the two years is narrowing, so it is more likely that those benefits will go away.Pennsylvania will likely reach that point by May 20, with all extended benefits coming to an end as of June 11, the Pennsylvania Department of Labor and Industry projects. The department estimates that 45,000 jobless will be cut off at some point during the 20 weeks.But many more will be affected because they will not receive any of the 20 weeks of benefits after they use up their earlier payments.To cope with this situation at a time when 13.6 million Americans are unemployed, Congress changed the "look back" to three years, comparing 2011 to 2008.But there is a catch. Each state has to agree. Delaware already has, and a bill is awaiting Gov. Christies signature in New Jersey. No word from his office on his plans.In Pennsylvania, there is no pending legislation. Sen. Christine Tartaglione (D., Phila.), the minority leader of the state Senates labor and industry committee, plans to introduce a measure early in April."We are in the situation now, where state legislators are convening and they have to get to this st, before their state triggers off" the extended benefits, said Maurice Emsellem, who monitors the issue for the National Employment Law Project, a national advocacy group."Once you trigger off, you are off for 13 weeks," he said.Potential opponents to Tartagliones measure include large employers and municipalities such as the City of Philadelphia that fund unemployment benefits themselves and do not tap into the statewide unemployment insurance fund.For John Di Ciurcio, the issue is now moot: He was laid off as a help-desk specialist in April 2009, and he exhausted all state and federal benefits two weeks ago. But he cannot imagine why support for the unemployed would diminish now."They are saying the economy is coming back, but jobs are the last to come back," he said. "Maybe those benefits will buy you a little time to hopefully get a job."

http://www.lenely.com/as-more-get-jobs-those-who-havent-ce-benefits-losemployment-l/
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Post by JoanB on Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:57 am

Thanks, Desperate.

Gaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Just talked to Sherry...now they're saying it probably won't be introduced into committee until next week!!!

Calm, must stay calm...
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Post by guest on Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:54 pm

JoanB wrote:Thanks, Desperate.

Gaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Just talked to Sherry...now they're saying it probably won't be introduced into committee until next week!!!

Calm, must stay calm...

Who is Sherry, and is there anything in print from Senator Tartaglione concerning introducing a bill for a 3 year look back for EB? Thanks!
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:25 pm

aloneinpa, Sherry works in the Senators office in Harrisburg. I spoke with her last week and my friend Joan here called today. Thanks Joan. If you want to see the only thing in print go to page 1, that is it, I have crawled the internet and that is basically it.
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:57 pm

JoanB wrote:Thanks, Desperate.

Gaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Just talked to Sherry...now they're saying it probably won't be introduced into committee until next week!!!

Calm, must stay calm...

Glad you got an update. Hang in there Joan. I just wish the Pittsburgh Tribune would stop telling everyone how low unemployment is in Pittsburgh. What is our next move here. I am getting very nervous, very nervous since I am a divorced mom with a daughter in college, it is kinda scary.....
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Post by Jobless_in_Ma on Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:57 pm

FYI I moved this topic to the new forum I created for states EB news. I feel were going to see a lot more of this and it should help it get more exposure.

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Post by Chubz on Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:31 pm

Even though PA will triggter off on May 20th the the last payments wouldnt be until June 11th or 18th. PA will probably pass the fix, as well as NJ. NY already passed their fix. Ohio passed the fix to, and their a red state.

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Post by guest on Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:25 pm

Dazed&Confused wrote:
JoanB wrote:Thanks, Desperate.

Gaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Just talked to Sherry...now they're saying it probably won't be introduced into committee until next week!!!

Calm, must stay calm...

Glad you got an update. Hang in there Joan. I just wish the Pittsburgh Tribune would stop telling everyone how low unemployment is in Pittsburgh. What is our next move here. I am getting very nervous, very nervous since I am a divorced mom with a daughter in college, it is kinda scary.....

The Pittsburgh Tribune is a conservative paper, so is my local newspaper (Butler Eagle).
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Post by Pugsrit on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:39 am

I have said it before but I will say it again. Why wasn't this addressed earlier? NELP had to know this was going to happen but yet nothing was passed down to us. NELP has to know about these online forums but yet nothing was said to alert us so we could start addressing it before benefits were suspended. When people are surviving on a shoe string the loss of benefits even for one week can be the difference between having a roof or being homeless. I do believe there are politicians and media people that care about us but ultimately we are always the force behind the change and it has been proven over and over again that it is our voice that gets the attention of the powers that be. I feel like it was a big secret when these states would trigger off and even though it was published by NELP little was done to make it widely known so that we could start the campaign. I am just frustrated because I do feel most of the states will adopt a 3 year look back it may be too late for some to save their homes and families from unnecessary hardship and stress. A heads up would have been appreciated.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:58 am

Pugsrit wrote:I have said it before but I will say it again. Why wasn't this addressed earlier? NELP had to know this was going to happen but yet nothing was passed down to us. NELP has to know about these online forums but yet nothing was said to alert us so we could start addressing it before benefits were suspended. When people are surviving on a shoe string the loss of benefits even for one week can be the difference between having a roof or being homeless. I do believe there are politicians and media people that care about us but ultimately we are always the force behind the change and it has been proven over and over again that it is our voice that gets the attention of the powers that be. I feel like it was a big secret when these states would trigger off and even though it was published by NELP little was done to make it widely known so that we could start the campaign. I am just frustrated because I do feel most of the states will adopt a 3 year look back it may be too late for some to save their homes and families from unnecessary hardship and stress. A heads up would have been appreciated.

I don't know if you are aware, but approximately 2 months ago, the National Employment Law Project (NELP) created a new branch that deals with unemployment issues. We were notified by them and the link is on the left side of the forum. This branch also goes by another name - Unemployed Workers.org.

Here is their link:

http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/

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Post by Pugsrit on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:52 am

DesperateInRI wrote:
Pugsrit wrote:I have said it before but I will say it again. Why wasn't this addressed earlier? NELP had to know this was going to happen but yet nothing was passed down to us. NELP has to know about these online forums but yet nothing was said to alert us so we could start addressing it before benefits were suspended. When people are surviving on a shoe string the loss of benefits even for one week can be the difference between having a roof or being homeless. I do believe there are politicians and media people that care about us but ultimately we are always the force behind the change and it has been proven over and over again that it is our voice that gets the attention of the powers that be. I feel like it was a big secret when these states would trigger off and even though it was published by NELP little was done to make it widely known so that we could start the campaign. I am just frustrated because I do feel most of the states will adopt a 3 year look back it may be too late for some to save their homes and families from unnecessary hardship and stress. A heads up would have been appreciated.

I don't know if you are aware, but approximately 2 months ago, the National Employment Law Project (NELP) created a new branch that deals with unemployment issues. We were notified by them and the link is on the left side of the forum. This branch also goes by another name - Unemployed Workers.org.

Here is their link:

http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/

I didn't know and that is my fault. I had hopes that when something this significant occurs it would get more attention then a link on the side of a forum. It caught many people off guard and many people will experience greater hardships because of it . We are fighting a war on many fronts. Job growth, extensions, future extensions and preserving past extensions. This has become a monster that is proving very difficult to contain and beat. I think most unemployed thought they were safe when the Bush tax credits were extended in exchange for unemployment insurance. This has proven to be NOT entirely true. The wealthy definitely got their extensions no pending state legislature to take that away. However, the unemployed have realized that deal was based on their state legislature's willingness to accept the funds or ensure the funds would continue. We were duped no question about it.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:16 am

Good time to remind everyone that they should sign up for alerts from http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/.

The way things are going, who knows what state is next.

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Post by JoanB on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:21 am

DesperateInRI wrote:Good time to remind everyone that they should sign up for alerts from http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/.

The way things are going, who knows what state is next.

Thanks Desperate. But I'm confused againstill. That site seems to suggest that Pennsylvania is not one of the states that still has to enact the legislation...but if that were true, then why would Sen. Tartagleone be talking about introducing in into committee? I'm clearly missing something here, but I can't figure out what.
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:32 am

JoanB wrote:
DesperateInRI wrote:Good time to remind everyone that they should sign up for alerts from http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/.

The way things are going, who knows what state is next.

Thanks Desperate. But I'm confused againstill. That site seems to suggest that Pennsylvania is not one of the states that still has to enact the legislation...but if that were true, then why would Sen. Tartagleone be talking about introducing in into committee? I'm clearly missing something here, but I can't figure out what.

I noticed that too. Unemployedworkers.org (NELP) does not mention PA at all. The only thing mentioned in the PA section was the Tier 4 trigger was off. NELP is not updating their site with the current information. This site only addresses MO and FL.

I provided this link and update on NELP in response to Pugsrit's post regarding NELP's lack of information. Unfortunately, she is right.

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Post by JoanB on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:53 am

DesperateInRI wrote:
JoanB wrote:
DesperateInRI wrote:Good time to remind everyone that they should sign up for alerts from http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/.

The way things are going, who knows what state is next.

Thanks Desperate. But I'm confused againstill. That site seems to suggest that Pennsylvania is not one of the states that still has to enact the legislation...but if that were true, then why would Sen. Tartagleone be talking about introducing in into committee? I'm clearly missing something here, but I can't figure out what.

I noticed that too. Unemployedworkers.org (NELP) does not mention PA at all. The only thing mentioned in the PA section was the Tier 4 trigger was off. NELP is not updating their site with the current information. This site only addresses MO and FL.

I provided this link and update on NELP in response to Pugsrit's post regarding NELP's lack of information. Unfortunately, she is right.

Isn't it jaw-dropping that all we have are a couple of web sites and one newspaper article to go on when we're dealing with something that affects so many people and should be way out in the open as it is a matter of public record?

Well, I guess after all these years, I'm still naive enough to be surprised by things like this.
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Post by guest on Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:50 pm

DesperateInRI wrote:Good time to remind everyone that they should sign up for alerts from http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/.

The way things are going, who knows what state is next.


You can also 'like' their Facebook page, UnemployedWorkers.org
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:21 pm

PENNSYLVANIA WILL LIKELY LOSE EXTENDED BENEFITS BY MAY 20TH

I AM SIMPLY APPALLED AND TRULY AMAZED THAT THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER HAS NOT ONCE PRINTED AN ARTICLE FEATURING THE PLIGHT OF THE UNEMPLOYED, THE LONG TERM UNEMPLOYED, AND THE EXHAUSTEES WITH REGARD TO THE NEW SET OF ISSUES THEY NOW FACE. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NEWSPAPERS REPORT THE ISSUES AFFECTING ITS’ READERSHIP NO MATTER ITS’ POLITICS. IT IS ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE AND PERHAPS UNFORGIVABLE THAT THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER HAS FAILED TO REPORT TO ITS’ READERSHIP SOMETHING AS NEWS WORTHY AS THE MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT WITH REGARD TO UNEMPLOYMENT EXTENDED BENEFITS. THE 13-WEEK EXTENDED BENEFITS PERIOD IS BEING CUT OFF, POSSIBLY AS SOON AS MAY 20, 2011, IN PENNSYLVANIA DUE TO A TECHNICALITY FOR WHICH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SUPPLIED A FIX. STATES CAN ADOPT THE FIX, INSERT IT INTO LAW, AND RECEIVE THOSE BENEFITS “FREE” FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THOSE BENEFITS BEING THE LAST LIFELINE FOR THE UNEMPLOYED, EXTENDED BENEFITS, WHICH ARE SET TO EXPIRE ON MAY 20, 2011 FOR SOME 45,000 PEOPLE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND BY MID-SUMMER SOME 90,000 PEOPLE. THE SIMPLE FACT IS THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO ITS’ CITIZENS. IT IS A TERRIBLE SHOCK AFTER WORKING SO HARD AND FAILING TO FIND A JOB IN SUCH A MISERABLE JOB MARKET HOWEVER IT IS DEVASTATING TO FIND OUT YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT WILL ABRUPTLY END IN A LITTLE OVER A MONTH. THIS IS THE SITUATION TENS OF THOUSAND OF UNEMPLOYED PENNSYLVANIANS NOW FIND THEMSELVES IN, BUT THE UNBELIEVABLE PART IS NOBODY KNOWS IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM SINCE IT WENT WIDELY UNREPORTED BY THE GOVERNMENT BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL. IT IS CALLED A 3-YEAR LOOK BACK FIX. MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE THEY WILL RECEIVE 13-WEEKS OF EXTENDED BENEFITS IF THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN PENNSYLVANIA IS ABOVE 6.5%. THIS IS NOT THE COMPLETE TRUTH. YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE MUST BE 10% ABOVE THE RATE IT WAS DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS. MOST STATES, INCLUDING PENNSYLVANIA, NEED THE 3-YEAR LOOK BACK FIX IN ORDER TO COLLECT EXTENDED BENEFITS, THE LAST LIFELINE. THE GOVERNMENT FINALLY REALIZED THEY NEEDED TO ENACT THIS 3-YEAR LOOK BACK LAW OR MOST STATES WOULD LOSE THEIR EXTENDED BENEFITS SINCE THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS GONE DOWN IN MOST STATES, EVEN THOUGH JOBS OPPORTUNITIES HAVE NOT GONE UP AS MUCH AS THEY ARE CLAIMING, AND WHAT THEY ARE CLAIMING IS NOT VERY MUCH. PENNSYLVANIA STILL HAS OVER A HALF MILLION UNEMPLOYED WORKERS. IS THIS NOT NEWS WORTHY? IS IT NOT NEWS WORTHY THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PENNSYLVANIANS COULD LOSE THEIR HOMES, WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THEIR EXTENDED BENEFITS HAVE BEEN CUT OFF BY THE STATE? THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FAILED TO REALIZE MOST STATES WOULD BE UNABLE TO COLLECT EXTENDED BENEFITS, AND THEY ONLY TOOK STEPS RECENTLY TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. THEY SIMPLY TOLD THE STATES THEY NEEDED TO MAKE A SIMPLE CHANGE IN THEIR LAW BY CREATING A 3-YEAR LOOK BACK COMPARISON. THIS WENT HIGHLY UNREPORTED, NOW MANY STATES ARE REFUSING THIS “FREE” FEDERAL MONEY IN THE NAME OF AUSTERITY, AND THE UNEMPLOYED DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT, THE OUTCOME OF THIS WILL BE DEVASTATING IF STATES DO NOT ADOPT THIS FIX. THIS IS WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT TRADED FOR EXTENDING TAX CUTS TO THE RICH AND OUR STATES ARE TAKING IT BACK. I MUST ASK WHY THE LARGEST NEWSPAPER IN PHILADELPHIA AND POSSIBLY IN PENNSYLVANIA, THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, NEGLECTED TO REPORT THIS CRITICAL INFORMATION TO IT READERS.

THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, HAVING THE DISTINCTION OF BEING THE LARGEST CIRCULATION NEWSPAPER SERVICING PHILADELPHIA COUNTY, PA; MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PA; BUCKS COUNTY, PA; DELAWARE COUNTY, PA AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY, HAS NOT ONCE MENTIONED OR FEATURED AN ARTICLE ABOUT THIS MOST DEVASTATING DEVELOPMENT NOW FACING THE UNEMPLOYED, WHICH IS GETTING THESE STATES, IN OUR CASE PENNSYLVANIA, TO CHANGE THE LAW TO A TEMPORARY 3-YEAR LOOK BACK. SIMPLY PUT THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER HAS FAILED ITS’ READERSHIP BY NOT ONCE FEATURING AN ARTICLE ON THE PREDICAMENT FACING THE UNEMPLOYED AND THEIR PROMISED EXTENDED BENEFITS. FURTHER PENNSYLVANIA’S WEBSITE DOES NOT, AT THIS LATE DATE, MENTION THE P0SSIBILITY 45,000 PEOPLE MAY LOSE THEIR BENEFITS BY MAY 20TH. THE INQUIRER AND THE GOVERNMENT OF PENNSYLVANIA FAILED ITS’ UNEMPLOYED BY NOT MAKING US AWARE THERE IS A FIX TO THIS PROBLEM AVAILABLE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND PENNSYLVANIA ONLY NEEDS TO TEMPORARILY CHANGE THE LOOK BACK PERIOD FROM A 2-YEAR LOOK BACK TO A 3-YEAR LOOK BACK. AS SIMPLE AS THAT SOUNDS, THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE MUCH BEING DONE TO RECTIFY THIS SERIOUS SITUATION. IT HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED BY THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER OR ANY OTHER PENNSYLVANIA NEWSPAPER THAT I KNOW OF NOR DOES THE STATE GOVERNMENT WEBSITE ADDRESS THIS EMERGENCY ISSUE, WHAT A DISGRACE LEAVING AN ISSUE AS IMPORTANT AS THIS UNKNOWN EVEN TO SOME LEGISLATORS, NAMELY THE REPUBLICANS WHO SEEM TO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE NEW FEDERAL LAW ENACTED TO CORRECT THIS. THIS IS QUITE POSSIBLY THE LAST LIFELINE FOR THE UNEMPLOYED. SHAME ON THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER AND EVERY OTHER OUTLET THAT HAS NOT REPORTED THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO THE PUBLIC, THE FIX, A 3-YEAR LOOK BACK. DAZED&CONFUSED
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:32 pm

I did a "google search" for more information on this, all I got was a link back to this forum and an article written about Missouri's EB issues that was in a State College PA newspaper. I couldn't find one thing about PA's EB, not even on the unemployment office or NELP's website.

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Post by Dazed&Confused on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:02 pm

DesperateInRI wrote:I did a "google search" for more information on this, all I got was a link back to this forum and an article written about Missouri's EB issues that was in a State College PA newspaper. I couldn't find one thing about PA's EB, not even on the unemployment office or NELP's website.

I know DesperateInRI, I am going to print this out and send this to the Philadelphia Inquirer, and anybody else I can think of, it is a disgrace. However much of our government is a disgrace these days. Oh I guess its been this way a long time and I just didn't notice. I stopped voting in 1985 when Philadelphia's Mayor Good, wanting to get a commune called "Move" out of the city decided to drop a bomb with C4 in it and let the city burn for 12 blocks. I was young then, but I will never forget that. 10 dead, just terrible.
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Post by unemployedandroid on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 pm

Dazed. if your not familiar with her, look up Jane Von Bergen at the Inquirer. i did an interview with her myself. jvonbergen@phillynews.com.

and i remember that horror at Osage from my younger years. said lots about how much the government cared then. and how much they care about their constituents now.
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:44 pm

Thank you, I will do that, thank you very much. Dazed
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:10 pm

unemployedandroid wrote:Dazed. if your not familiar with her, look up Jane Von Bergen at the Inquirer. i did an interview with her myself. jvonbergen@phillynews.com.

and i remember that horror at Osage from my younger years. said lots about how much the government cared then. and how much they care about their constituents now.
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Yes, Osage Avenue, Powelton Village
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:22 pm

I am being proactive with the Governor - and this is what I wrote to him:

I know before the elections, "You said Philadelphia had plenty of Jobs." I cannot to this day believe you actually meant this.

I am asking you and posting this on the many unemployment boards "Are you waiting for the last minute, to let Pennsylvanians know they will not receive extended benefits which the Federal Government has provided a fix." All you have to do is sign a bill for a 3-year look back, and Pennsylvanians will be able to receive the entitled Extended Benefits.

There are over 500,000 unemployed residence of Pennsylvania. Do you want more homes foreclosed on? You may not believe it, but Pennsylvania is a working state with a huge base of Democrats, far more than Republicans.

It will be a very sad, and a very bad day in Pennsylvania if Extended Benefits are not approved. I am not going to explain to you an 8% unemployment rate and what that means, you know what it means, many people are no longer collecting...get the job done and pass extended benefits now. Seems you are real quite about this issue, not one mention of Extended Benefits on the Pennsylvania website and what the possibilities are, but believe me Governor, you should not hold back making your stand because if you do and Pennsylvanians finds out at the last minute, you have taken away their Extended Benefits, this working State will be extremely, extremely upset. No need to see what other Republicans are going to do in their state, use your brain and do the right thing for our children, they need food and clothing now, not 30 years from now.

I hope you get on this horse now because the word is spreading, and once it spreads, you need to be on board.

Sincerely hope you start spreading the word to the Pennsylvania Legislatures and, of course, the people of Pennsylvania who are to date unaware of this nasty little scheme, because I can't imagine the outcome of what will happen if you do not extend Extended Benefits, EB. in the great Commonwealth of Pensylvania. To me there is no choice, pass them now, or see large cities, small cities, go nuts on you.

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Post by JoanB on Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:09 am

Dazed&Confused wrote:I am being proactive with the Governor - and this is what I wrote to him:

I know before the elections, "You said Philadelphia had plenty of Jobs." I cannot to this day believe you actually meant this.

I am asking you and posting this on the many unemployment boards "Are you waiting for the last minute, to let Pennsylvanians know they will not receive extended benefits which the Federal Government has provided a fix." All you have to do is sign a bill for a 3-year look back, and Pennsylvanians will be able to receive the entitled Extended Benefits.

There are over 500,000 unemployed residence of Pennsylvania. Do you want more homes foreclosed on? You may not believe it, but Pennsylvania is a working state with a huge base of Democrats, far more than Republicans.

It will be a very sad, and a very bad day in Pennsylvania if Extended Benefits are not approved. I am not going to explain to you an 8% unemployment rate and what that means, you know what it means, many people are no longer collecting...get the job done and pass extended benefits now. Seems you are real quite about this issue, not one mention of Extended Benefits on the Pennsylvania website and what the possibilities are, but believe me Governor, you should not hold back making your stand because if you do and Pennsylvanians finds out at the last minute, you have taken away their Extended Benefits, this working State will be extremely, extremely upset. No need to see what other Republicans are going to do in their state, use your brain and do the right thing for our children, they need food and clothing now, not 30 years from now.

I hope you get on this horse now because the word is spreading, and once it spreads, you need to be on board.

Sincerely hope you start spreading the word to the Pennsylvania Legislatures and, of course, the people of Pennsylvania who are to date unaware of this nasty little scheme, because I can't imagine the outcome of what will happen if you do not extend Extended Benefits, EB. in the great Commonwealth of Pensylvania. To me there is no choice, pass them now, or see large cities, small cities, go nuts on you.


Great work, Dazed! I hadn't thought about about our new governor (cough) except in the role of signing the legislation should it get out of committee and pass. But you're right, he can also influence lawmakerers in the process.

You also made me think of something else: letters to the editor. As I'm sure you know, the only way those have a chance of getting published is if they are very short and to the point. What if we peppered a few sample LTEs on the various unemployment boards and asked other Pennsylvanians in smaller cities/towns to send them to their local papers? And then you could cover the Inquirer and I the Post-Gazette and Tribune Review. (Unless you already tried the Inquirer--I can't remember.) Are people even talking about this on other unemployment sites? This is the only one I visit.

I called Sen. Tartagleone's office yesterday, and they're still saying next week. Sigh.
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Post by Dazed&Confused on Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:35 am

Joan, I sent an email to every State Senator and just finished up this morning. Basically told them what I told the Governor. From my reading about other states the Governors are advised by the Feds first and they are supposed to pass this information along to the legislator however, they are waiting until the last minute. So I figured I'd email all the State Senators and let them know basically what I told the Governor, hope I was not to nasty with him. I will be checking some other sites about what they are doing. Not sure it is much. i have also email The Inquirer about the situation. I will call them on Monday. Do you know if we should email the Representatives, because if they have a say in it, I will do that too.

I have just finished up, didn't finish up until 7 this morning so I need a nap.

I have the email addys for the Senators if you would like them, here they are:

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/email_list.cfm?body=S

Also, the reps can be found on the above link.

I'll talk to you when I recover. Pennsylvania will likely lose EB by May 20 - Page 2 907995 very tired.

I appreciate all your help. Thanks. Dazed&Tired
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