GHOSTS OF VIETNAM CALLING DONALD TRUMP: SHOW US YOUR DRAFT CARD!

Where did “The Donald” go????

Inquiring minds want to know. This is a person asking for President Obama’s birth certificate. We want Donald Trumps draft card.

For someone wanting to run the “free world,” at the most critical time in his life when 2.9 million American served in Vietnam and millions more in the military, for no reason known to anyone, and in direct contradiction to the laws of man and the United States, Donald Trump managed to “slide on by.”

The generation that served, some surviving, many more not, isn’t ready to welcome “the Donald” until he explains exactly where and why. Where were you Donald? Why didn’t you serve? How did you get out of it? Where did you go? Who helped you?

lendmeflight2 wrote:

exhaustedandtired/1208 wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:1208, Obama would have been a baby when the Viet Nam "Conflict" was started, and barely a teenager when we pulled our troops out.

The draft stopped in 1974, I remember because my classmates were able to breath a sigh of relief. That was the year I graduated high school and if the draft were still in place, the boys who weren't fortunate enough to go to college (Pell Grants were only in the infancy stage then) would have been shipped off to basic training then off to Viet Nam.

In the period when President Obama would have been in the age range to serve in the military, there were no wars or conflicts going on either. So the whole issue of whether or not the President served, is a moot point. I believe he served our country in other ways through his community activism in his younger days.

Point!!! Obama has no military experience at all either! It shows! Who said anything about Viet Nam or conflicts.By the way, there has always been conflicts!WWI,WWII,Korean,Noreiga(if you consider that a conflict),gulf wari, Iraq war, Afganistan, Libya(now), elsewhere??? He was 19 or 20 or 21 at one time. he has not even served in any military!

Well, the thread is about Vietnam. So that is "who anything about Vietnam".

I am really not sure what point you are making because if Trump is the republican nominee, America will be choosing between two people with no military experience.

So what is your point?

When you are trying to decide on hiring someone you don't compare traits that neither candidate has, you judge them based on other merits that they can contribute.

I get it, Trump is really rich and we worship wealth. However, that doesn't mean he will be a good president.

I can promise you that jobs and the economy will go over the cliff if he is elected but he will run the country like a CEO and cut everything that doesn't make a profit. The federal government is not a business and is not supposed to make a profit.

Sunrise wrote:

delko wrote:Hey at least he can prove he was born in the United States of America! Last time I checked, not having served in Vietnam does not preclude someone from becoming President. However, not being born a Citizen DOES!!

CNN has investigated these claims and here are the key points:

Certificate of live birth

The Obama team and the state of Hawaii released a certification of live birth, which documents the president’s birth on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu. This is not the original birth certificate. In Hawaii and other states, original birth certificates are not released when requested later.

CNN has seen a copy of the document and verified that it is official.

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, says she has personally viewed the president's original vital records and verified that he was born in Hawaii.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/15/debunking-the-birther-claim/?hpt=Sbin

delko wrote:Hey at least he can prove he was born in the United States of America! Last time I checked, not having served in Vietnam does not preclude someone from becoming President. However, not being born a Citizen DOES!!

delko wrote:Someone here was saying 'the birthers' are attacking Obama because they have nothing else to attack him on.
YES, he's done such a great job. Sure (sarcasm) That's why myself and 20 million others, many of whom are on this website for the unemployed along with me, are long term unemployed. I will say, I was laid off in early 2008. It took me all of 1 month to find work. In fact I had 2 jobs offered to me within a matter of 4 months. This time around, I was laid off in Mar 2010, with Obama firmly in Office for well over a year. I am now 13 months out of work, not only no offer, but only 6 interviews in this time.
SORRY, no dice, from my personal perspective, I fail to see how things are better under this President. And how anyone, especially anyone unemployed and therefore is on this site, can make such a statement that there is nothing to find wrong with Obama.

delko wrote:Someone here was saying 'the birthers' are attacking Obama because they have nothing else to attack him on.
YES, he's done such a great job. Sure (sarcasm) That's why myself and 20 million others, many of whom are on this website for the unemployed along with me, are long term unemployed. I will say, I was laid off in early 2008. It took me all of 1 month to find work. In fact I had 2 jobs offered to me within a matter of 4 months. This time around, I was laid off in Mar 2010, with Obama firmly in Office for well over a year. I am now 13 months out of work, not only no offer, but only 6 interviews in this time.
SORRY, no dice, from my personal perspective, I fail to see how things are better under this President. And how anyone, especially anyone unemployed and therefore is on this site, can make such a statement that there is nothing to find wrong with Obama.

New_Wave_Princess wrote:Yes we should all get our facts from Faux, I mean Fox News! They aren't biased, though the chairman Ailes is related to Bush. But yes they are the only ones who matter.

I am being sarcatic, btw.

delko wrote:

Sunrise wrote:

delko wrote:Hey at least he can prove he was born in the United States of America! Last time I checked, not having served in Vietnam does not preclude someone from becoming President. However, not being born a Citizen DOES!!

CNN has investigated these claims and here are the key points:

Certificate of live birth

The Obama team and the state of Hawaii released a certification of live birth, which documents the president’s birth on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu. This is not the original birth certificate. In Hawaii and other states, original birth certificates are not released when requested later.

CNN has seen a copy of the document and verified that it is official.

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, says she has personally viewed the president's original vital records and verified that he was born in Hawaii.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/15/debunking-the-birther-claim/?hpt=Sbin

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DesperateInRI wrote:No she didn't. Sunrise made no further comments after.

delko wrote:

New_Wave_Princess wrote:Yes we should all get our facts from Faux, I mean Fox News! They aren't biased, though the chairman Ailes is related to Bush. But yes they are the only ones who matter.

I am being sarcatic, btw.

Well, Fox is the only news where their economist made the reality statement:

"250,000 new jobs created, even if its sustainable month over month for the next 3 years, which highly unlikely it would be, would only lower the unemployment rate to 8%." Why can't anyone else look at the reality like this??? Hence, I will continue to get my news from FOX.

New_Wave_Princess wrote:I've been online with Sunrise for a few years now and have never seen her mock anyone. Maybe she mocked the birthers, I don't know, but I mock them. They are morons and I will continue to mock them. I mock anyone with racist attitudes, which is where their mocking is coming from.

delko wrote:All I want to say to the Heavy Leftists on here, I am not a 'birther'. I dont and will not identify with groups. I rather stand for what's going to get this Country back up and running right again, and get my rear end back to work, building a career I poured my blood sweat and tears into for 20 years so far. And I dont care if its a Party that goes by Red or Blue as its colors, or Purple or Green for that matter, as long as it gets this accomplished.
I know the 'Birther' terminology is a rallying point that gets the Left all revved up. But you are missing the real point in the midst of your tizzy. The real point runs much deeper than just whether this President was born here or not. Its a statement to open the eyes of America to the blatant disregard this Administration and its President has for the US Constitution. And instead substitutes for it with shooting 'Policy' from the hip depending on their flavor of the day. Which is a dangerous game of pool. Sadly, though, the Country has much more riding on it than just a game of pool.

lendmeflight2 wrote:

delko wrote:

New_Wave_Princess wrote:Yes we should all get our facts from Faux, I mean Fox News! They aren't biased, though the chairman Ailes is related to Bush. But yes they are the only ones who matter.

I am being sarcatic, btw.

Well, Fox is the only news where their economist made the reality statement:

"250,000 new jobs created, even if its sustainable month over month for the next 3 years, which highly unlikely it would be, would only lower the unemployment rate to 8%." Why can't anyone else look at the reality like this??? Hence, I will continue to get my news from FOX.

Well, that explains why you are so poorly informed. It is pretty well established that fox news is heavily skewed toward the right. Everything they say isn't a blatant lie, a lot of it is though, but it is reported in a way that it isn't really true anymore.

The quote you listed is common knowledge. You are basing your entire belief in this network on one quote that is mathematically obvious? I have heard cnn and msnbc say this several time.

Why can't people just be honest and say that what fox news says is more comfortable and pleasant to hear? That all of our problems are caused by a black president, and brown people and muslims? I would at least respect that.

delko wrote:All I want to say to the Heavy Leftists on here, I am not a 'birther'. I dont and will not identify with groups. I rather stand for what's going to get this Country back up and running right again, and get my rear end back to work, building a career I poured my blood sweat and tears into for 20 years so far. And I dont care if its a Party that goes by Red or Blue as its colors, or Purple or Green for that matter, as long as it gets this accomplished.
I know the 'Birther' terminology is a rallying point that gets the Left all revved up. But you are missing the real point in the midst of your tizzy. The real point runs much deeper than just whether this President was born here or not. Its a statement to open the eyes of America to the blatant disregard this Administration and its President has for the US Constitution. And instead substitutes for it with shooting 'Policy' from the hip depending on their flavor of the day. Which is a dangerous game of pool. Sadly, though, the Country has much more riding on it than just a game of pool.

delko wrote:

New_Wave_Princess wrote:I've been online with Sunrise for a few years now and have never seen her mock anyone. Maybe she mocked the birthers, I don't know, but I mock them. They are morons and I will continue to mock them. I mock anyone with racist attitudes, which is where their mocking is coming from.

Thanks Princess. You just calling me a racist now?? Lets see, I have a Korean adopted niece and Cousin. My Wife and I were looking to adopt from Korea, before our dream got demolished last year when I was laid off in Mar 2010. What right do you have to call me that? *Moderated* Again, read the Forum Rules and Code of Conduct!

delko wrote:

lendmeflight2 wrote:

delko wrote:

New_Wave_Princess wrote:Yes we should all get our facts from Faux, I mean Fox News! They aren't biased, though the chairman Ailes is related to Bush. But yes they are the only ones who matter.

I am being sarcatic, btw.

Well, Fox is the only news where their economist made the reality statement:

"250,000 new jobs created, even if its sustainable month over month for the next 3 years, which highly unlikely it would be, would only lower the unemployment rate to 8%." Why can't anyone else look at the reality like this??? Hence, I will continue to get my news from FOX.

Well, that explains why you are so poorly informed. It is pretty well established that fox news is heavily skewed toward the right. Everything they say isn't a blatant lie, a lot of it is though, but it is reported in a way that it isn't really true anymore.

The quote you listed is common knowledge. You are basing your entire belief in this network on one quote that is mathematically obvious? I have heard cnn and msnbc say this several time.

Why can't people just be honest and say that what fox news says is more comfortable and pleasant to hear? That all of our problems are caused by a black president, and brown people and muslims? I would at least respect that.

OH, here we go with the Race Card now. Every Liberals time weathered weapon of defense when they know they are wrong.