In Hawaii, accessing some Obama birth info is easy

Lost in the renewed scrutiny into President Barack Obama's birth records is the fact that anyone can walk into a Hawaii vital records office, wait in line behind couples getting marriage licenses and open a baby-blue government binder containing basic information about his birth.

Highlighted in yellow on page 1,218 of the thick binder is the computer-generated listing for a boy named Barack Hussein Obama II born in Hawaii, surrounded by the alphabetized last names of all other children born in-state between 1960 and 1964. This is the only government birth information, called "index data," available to the public.

lendmeflight2 wrote:Well, yeah as I said before, the vast majority of people do not believe but I guess we are all crazy.

She says she WASN'T at the birth because he was born in America. If you believe the translator this came right out of his mouth.

But even if she did say she was there, Your argument is "How could an 80 year old Kenyan woman get to Hawaii"?

She flew on a plane would be my guess. They have planes in Kenya and did in 1960 as well.

LeannaAndPerry wrote:I think someone did take this to court... I read this ...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

which showed this and something about taking it to court... i'm gonna go read it again.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

MyDixieWrecked wrote: most of the people here are just afraid to see the truth when it comes to their precious Obama, even after he has screwed over the unemployed time and time again.

MyDixieWrecked wrote:can't wait to be called a "tea bagger" or some other lame insult now, just remember, if you don't share the same EXACT opinion as everyone else here you will be labeled a troll or worse

JoanB wrote:

LeannaAndPerry wrote:I think someone did take this to court... I read this ...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

which showed this and something about taking it to court... i'm gonna go read it again.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

Ha! That reminded me of Orly Taitz: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/229691/july-28-2009/womb-raiders---orly-taitz

Hey, I'm tired of arguing about this imaginary, made-up thing. Let's argue about American Sharia laws, The New Black Panther Party, or headless corpses in the desert.

troycomic wrote:There is enough doubt to go around but id JoanB, chopthis91, and the old hippie lendmeflight 2 want to be ignorant that there is the the possibility then that A O K with me.

Now wait just a minute there mister, if I were desperateinRI, I'd be pretty miffed by being left off of that "want to be ignorant" list! Maybe she wants to be just as ignorant as the rest of us, did you ever think of that? And your suggestion by omission that I am not an old hippie and lendmeflight gets to be one of those seems like one of them there tricks you learn in teabagger traing class.

You said "This is a debate and you all have not given the the equal informati on as I tried to put forth." No, you gave us a bunch of...silliy crap...and you expect to get back serious debating points? When you have some serious topic to debate, and have serious information to support your assertions, I for one would be willing to debate you. But I'm not going to debate stuff that isn't even real with you or anyone else. OK?

JoanB wrote:

troycomic wrote:There is enough doubt to go around but id JoanB, chopthis91, and the old hippie lendmeflight 2 want to be ignorant that there is the the possibility then that A O K with me.

Now wait just a minute there mister, if I were desperateinRI, I'd be pretty miffed by being left off of that "want to be ignorant" list! Maybe she wants to be just as ignorant as the rest of us, did you ever think of that? And your suggestion by omission that I am not an old hippie and lendmeflight gets to be one of those seems like one of them there tricks you learn in teabagger traing class.

You said "This is a debate and you all have not given the the equal informati on as I tried to put forth." No, you gave us a bunch of...silliy crap...and you expect to get back serious debating points? When you have some serious topic to debate, and have serious information to support your assertions, I for one would be willing to debate you. But I'm not going to debate stuff that isn't even real with you or anyone else. OK?

I think he left out some punctuation in his list of names. I don't think he left me out, I think I am the "old hippie". Oh well, I've been called worse, I actually take that as a compliment.

Didn't you make a comment in the "Great Quotes" thread that Winston Churchill had some of the best. I found one that suits this topic:

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Sir Winston Churchill

troycomic wrote:There is enough doubt to go around but id JoanB, chopthis91, and the old hippie lendmeflight 2 want to be ignorant that there is the the possibility then that A O K with me.

Now wait just a minute there mister, if I were desperateinRI, I'd be pretty miffed by being left off of that "want to be ignorant" list! Maybe she wants to be just as ignorant as the rest of us, did you ever think of that? And your suggestion by omission that I am not an old hippie and lendmeflight gets to be one of those seems like one of them there tricks you learn in teabagger traing class.

You said "This is a debate and you all have not given the the equal informati on as I tried to put forth." No, you gave us a bunch of...silliy crap...and you expect to get back serious debating points? When you have some serious topic to debate, and have serious information to support your assertions, I for one would be willing to debate you. But I'm not going to debate stuff that isn't even real with you or anyone else. OK?

DesperateInRI wrote:Troy - I was asking JoanB about the comment in the Great Quotes thread, not you.

DesperateInRI wrote:

JoanB wrote:

troycomic wrote:There is enough doubt to go around but id JoanB, chopthis91, and the old hippie lendmeflight 2 want to be ignorant that there is the the possibility then that A O K with me.

Now wait just a minute there mister, if I were desperateinRI, I'd be pretty miffed by being left off of that "want to be ignorant" list! Maybe she wants to be just as ignorant as the rest of us, did you ever think of that? And your suggestion by omission that I am not an old hippie and lendmeflight gets to be one of those seems like one of them there tricks you learn in teabagger traing class.

You said "This is a debate and you all have not given the the equal informati on as I tried to put forth." No, you gave us a bunch of...silliy crap...and you expect to get back serious debating points? When you have some serious topic to debate, and have serious information to support your assertions, I for one would be willing to debate you. But I'm not going to debate stuff that isn't even real with you or anyone else. OK?

I think he left out some punctuation in his list of names. I don't think he left me out, I think I am the "old hippie". Oh well, I've been called worse, I actually take that as a compliment.

Didn't you make a comment in the "Great Quotes" thread that Winston Churchill had some of the best. I found one that suits this topic:

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Sir Winston Churchill

No I did not make a comment in the great quotes thread. and you were not the old hippie lendmefight2 was

troycomic wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:

JoanB wrote:

troycomic wrote:There is enough doubt to go around but id JoanB, chopthis91, and the old hippie lendmeflight 2 want to be ignorant that there is the the possibility then that A O K with me.

Now wait just a minute there mister, if I were desperateinRI, I'd be pretty miffed by being left off of that "want to be ignorant" list! Maybe she wants to be just as ignorant as the rest of us, did you ever think of that? And your suggestion by omission that I am not an old hippie and lendmeflight gets to be one of those seems like one of them there tricks you learn in teabagger traing class.

You said "This is a debate and you all have not given the the equal informati on as I tried to put forth." No, you gave us a bunch of...silliy crap...and you expect to get back serious debating points? When you have some serious topic to debate, and have serious information to support your assertions, I for one would be willing to debate you. But I'm not going to debate stuff that isn't even real with you or anyone else. OK?

I think he left out some punctuation in his list of names. I don't think he left me out, I think I am the "old hippie". Oh well, I've been called worse, I actually take that as a compliment.

Didn't you make a comment in the "Great Quotes" thread that Winston Churchill had some of the best. I found one that suits this topic:

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Sir Winston Churchill

No I did not make a comment in the great quotes thread. and you were not the old hippie lendmefight2 was

I will even give you this.

I will concede that it is POSSIBLE that Obama wasn't born here. It could be some vast leftist agenda to get him into power. However, this is very, very, unlikely. It's POSSIBLE that I will win the lottery next week but highly unlikely.

Sick & Tired wrote:Just agree to disagree...Please don't make it personal. No need for personal attacks.

There is nothing to back up these accusations. It looks to me like this is something that people made up to discredit Obama. Until someone is able to prove it, I consider it just another awful rumor. JMHO

lendmeflight2 wrote:

troycomic wrote:

DesperateInRI wrote:

JoanB wrote:

I think he left out some punctuation in his list of names. I don't think he left me out, I think I am the "old hippie". Oh well, I've been called worse, I actually take that as a compliment.

Didn't you make a comment in the "Great Quotes" thread that Winston Churchill had some of the best. I found one that suits this topic:

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Sir Winston Churchill

No I did not make a comment in the great quotes thread. and you were not the old hippie lendmefight2 was

I will even give you this.

I will concede that it is POSSIBLE that Obama wasn't born here. It could be some vast leftist agenda to get him into power. However, this is very, very, unlikely. It's POSSIBLE that I will win the lottery next week but highly unlikely.

YOU CONCEDED THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT OBOMA WASN'T BORN HERE. SO OBVIOUSLY MY ARGUMENT HAS MERIT.

AND I WON THE DEBATE. I GOT YOU TO THINK OUTSIDE YOUR BOX. THIS IS WHY I WON NUMEROUS DEBATE CLUB TROPHIES.

LIKE I SAID I AM TOO SMART TO GET "BRAINWASHED". I GOT YOU TO ADMIT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO MY SIDE WHEN YOU DID NOT WANT TO.

I HOPE I AM NOT RIGHT, BUT "SHOW ME THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE"

YOU TALKED A LOT, BUT REALLY HAD NOTHING TO SAY.

BUT AT LEAST YOU CAME TO YOUR OR MY SENSES TO ADMIT "THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OBOMA WAS NOT BORN HERE"

THIS WAS FUN. I HOPE YOU STEP UP YOUR GAME TO CHALLENGE ME NEXT TIME.

DON'T WORRY, YOU ARE ONE OF MANY BEATEN.

AND I DO HOPE YOU WIN YOUR LOTTERY!!! REALLY I DO. OR I PRAY YOU GET A "GOOD"JOB! I REALLY DO! I WANT YOU TO GET A GREAT JOB.

I AM TODDCOMIC.

troycomic wrote:

Sick & Tired wrote:Just agree to disagree...Please don't make it personal. No need for personal attacks.

There is nothing to back up these accusations. It looks to me like this is something that people made up to discredit Obama. Until someone is able to prove it, I consider it just another awful rumor. JMHO

Go back to sleep.

This is a debate that both sides have points.

By saying "something that people made up to discredit Oboma" shows you don't want to admit some of the doubt that is out there. Which makes you a hypocrite.

By your words I say "Until someone can prove he was born here, I concider it an onther unanswered question"

There is nothing to "discredit" these accusations either.