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Post by New_Wave_Princess on Mon May 16, 2011 8:29 pm

I don't know about anyone else but I am tired of dealing with people who aren't American but have jobs. Between a bill collector from India to the college I attended giving work study jobs to foreign students instead of Americans.

So I am boycotting ANY company that does this and I'll let them know. I will NOT be paying my credit cards if they outsource the jobs. I will NOT go to a doctor who's not American or perhaps European, I especially will not go to a doctor from India. Yes that sounds racist but I am tired of this.

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Post by hello on Mon May 16, 2011 9:04 pm

Uh..how do you know the "indian" doctor is not an American citizen? Also, did you know there is a shortage of doctors in the US right now? There arent any unemployed doctors out there.

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Post by Guest on Mon May 16, 2011 9:24 pm

I agree that it is very frustrating to speak to someone overseas when dealing with credit and service issues. I usually tell them outright I need to speak with someone else, I can't understand them.

As far as foreign students in colleges, American students also have the opportunity to study abroad, and many do. I took a summer course about 10 years ago and it was all foreign exchange student. Not just India - they were from Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada and Spain . On the other hand, PC had hundreds of American students studying overseas. The college had a great foreign exchange program. I really can't fault foreign students when there are just as many American students studying overseas.

Doctors? I came in contact with the two most wonderful doctors 2 years ago, under very stressful and emotional circumstances. They were both Indian oncologists. Two very close relatives, my brother-in-law and Dad were diagnosed with cancer one month apart from each other and passed away within a month and a half of each other. Each of these doctors were the most compassionate, caring and spiritual individuals I have ever met. When it comes to a situation like that, I wouldn't care if the doctors were from Mars as long as I was treated with the best care all around, both physically and emotionally.

Millions of jobs have been outsourced to India, but it is not the fault of the Indian people. It is the fault of the greedy, corrupt American corporations who have no problem sending jobs to countries that treat employees like slaves. Receiving additional tax cuts isn't good enough for them, they want their profits at the expense of human lives, both American and foreign.

It is time these companies were called out and the blame pointed at where it belongs. One of the biggest offenders in my state is Bank of America. I won't have anything to do with them whatsoever.

The boycotts should begin here at home, let the corporations take the responsibility and pay the consequences of their actions.

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Post by PamelaJo on Mon May 16, 2011 9:51 pm

Have you read the book "Outsourcing America: The True Cost of Shipping Jobs Overseas and What Can Be Done About It" by Ron and Anil Hira? It's an excellent read and details the reality and true cost of offshore outsourcing of American jobs. Very enlightening, objective, and also very disheartening.

It is the fault of Corporate America and our own Government that American citizens are now suffering the harsh results of outsourcing. I don't fault the individual employees in other countries. They have been provided with opportunities and have taken them. I would do the same thing if China or India would provide a job for me here in America. Again, I blame those within our own borders for the state of our economy.

In any case, look for the book at the library. You will be enlightened. You will find that while outsourcing is eroding our economy, it is Corporate America which is robbing us of The American Dream.

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Post by Guest on Mon May 16, 2011 10:02 pm

PamelaJo, love your avatar! is that Betsy Ross? My daughter just did a report on her for school. We have some pretty awesome pictures that we found online for it. I almost used one as my avatar too!

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Post by Guest on Mon May 16, 2011 10:13 pm

DesperateInRI wrote:I agree that it is very frustrating to speak to someone overseas when dealing with credit and service issues. I usually tell them outright I need to speak with someone else, I can't understand them.

As far as foreign students in colleges, American students also have the opportunity to study abroad, and many do. I took a summer course about 10 years ago and it was all foreign exchange student. Not just India - they were from Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada and Spain . On the other hand, PC had hundreds of American students studying overseas. The college had a great foreign exchange program. I really can't fault foreign students when there are just as many American students studying overseas.

Doctors? I came in contact with the two most wonderful doctors 2 years ago, under very stressful and emotional circumstances. They were both Indian oncologists. Two very close relatives, my brother-in-law and Dad were diagnosed with cancer one month apart from each other and passed away within a month and a half of each other. Each of these doctors were the most compassionate, caring and spiritual individuals I have ever met. When it comes to a situation like that, I wouldn't care if the doctors were from Mars as long as I was treated with the best care all around, both physically and emotionally.

Millions of jobs have been outsourced to India, but it is not the fault of the Indian people. It is the fault of the greedy, corrupt American corporations who have no problem sending jobs to countries that treat employees like slaves. Receiving additional tax cuts isn't good enough for them, they want their profits at the expense of human lives, both American and foreign.

It is time these companies were called out and the blame pointed at where it belongs. One of the biggest offenders in my state is Bank of America. I won't have anything to do with them whatsoever.

The boycotts should begin here at home, let the corporations take the responsibility and pay the consequences of their actions.

My cousin is on the deans list at Bentley college. He is studying world finance. He got to go to China for a month last year as an exchange student and now he just spent a month in Amsterdam. Not sure of the details, but he was offered the chance to stay on in Amsterdam but declined.

Many Americans DO benefit from this program just as much as students from other countries do.

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Post by PamelaJo on Mon May 16, 2011 11:06 pm

I just read your reply b/c I've been offline watching the Phillies game.

Yes, it is Betsy Ross. That's something, that you almost used her image, too! I bet the Betsy Ross report was very interesting!

I love history and especially the Revolutionary War era. I've been fortunate to live near Philadelphia and Valley Forge all of my life. It's been a love of mine since childhood and I have to admit that every time I visit Independence Hall, I am brought to tears. It's just very moving for me when I stand there in front of that historic building and think about the past. I love to read,too. My books (and my cat) have gotten me through some depressing days the last couple of years. I'm able to lose myself in my books and forget about my unemployed state, at least for a short time.

I refuse to allow my circumstances to take away my love of American History, and I've always been quite patriotic, too. It's been hard to maintain that attitude lately, but I try to focus on what patriotism stood for back when our country was young...that helps me to remember to have positive thoughts.

I've been checking the Dept. of Interior website regularly, as I would love to work at Independence Park or Valley Forge. Nothing so far, but I would be willing to take a seasonal position, so maybe something might come up. That would be my dream job! I exhaust all benefits in two weeks and still can't find work, so I know I have some stressful times ahead. For tonight, I'll hold my cat and read.

I'm glad you like my avatar! Have a good night.

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Post by Guest on Mon May 16, 2011 11:12 pm

She is in second grade and they had to give an oral presentation for the famous American they chose to read about. They had to dress the part too!! LOL It was very cute! She did a great job.

I would like to go back to school and if and when I do, I would love to take a few classes about American History just for the fun of it. I find myself getting very nostalgic about our history as of late.

I hope you find your dream job! You have a good night as well.

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Post by New_Wave_Princess on Tue May 17, 2011 12:21 am

DesperateInRI wrote:I agree that it is very frustrating to speak to someone overseas when dealing with credit and service issues. I usually tell them outright I need to speak with someone else, I can't understand them.

As far as foreign students in colleges, American students also have the opportunity to study abroad, and many do. I took a summer course about 10 years ago and it was all foreign exchange student. Not just India - they were from Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada and Spain . On the other hand, PC had hundreds of American students studying overseas. The college had a great foreign exchange program. I really can't fault foreign students when there are just as many American students studying overseas.

Doctors? I came in contact with the two most wonderful doctors 2 years ago, under very stressful and emotional circumstances. They were both Indian oncologists. Two very close relatives, my brother-in-law and Dad were diagnosed with cancer one month apart from each other and passed away within a month and a half of each other. Each of these doctors were the most compassionate, caring and spiritual individuals I have ever met. When it comes to a situation like that, I wouldn't care if the doctors were from Mars as long as I was treated with the best care all around, both physically and emotionally.

Millions of jobs have been outsourced to India, but it is not the fault of the Indian people. It is the fault of the greedy, corrupt American corporations who have no problem sending jobs to countries that treat employees like slaves. Receiving additional tax cuts isn't good enough for them, they want their profits at the expense of human lives, both American and foreign.

It is time these companies were called out and the blame pointed at where it belongs. One of the biggest offenders in my state is Bank of America. I won't have anything to do with them whatsoever.

The boycotts should begin here at home, let the corporations take the responsibility and pay the consequences of their actions.

I should clarify about the foreign students. What I am talking about is how the grad school I attended was giving work study jobs to foreign students instead of Americans. I'm not bothered by foreign students, but am offended that they were taking taxpayer provided jobs from Americans.

No, it's not the fault of the Indian people, but still doesn't mean I want to deal with people who have formerly American jobs.

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Post by New_Wave_Princess on Tue May 17, 2011 12:22 am

hello wrote:Uh..how do you know the "indian" doctor is not an American citizen? Also, did you know there is a shortage of doctors in the US right now? There arent any unemployed doctors out there.

Because I would find out where he attended school. I believe there are some unemployed doctors but the thing is many work for themselves which makes it harder to consider being unemployed. This isn't just Indians it's anyone who comes here on a visa. Visa holders take jobs away from Americans.

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Post by AbusedWorker on Tue May 17, 2011 6:59 am

New_Wave_Princess wrote:I don't know about anyone else but I am tired of dealing with people who aren't American but have jobs. Yes that sounds racist but I am tired of this.

This is the same attitude that arose during the hyperinflationary period (2001 and onward) in Argentina amongst the poor. They basically would attack, kidnap or assault anyone they perceived to be better off than they were. Many of them were previously middle class with houses, jobs, and education. Argentina at the time had a wealthier middle class than the US. The same pattern is starting again in the US, full force -- and the Americans all have their eyes on the people who took their jobs. This is the essence of the Tea Party movement and some of the anti-globalization Labor movements. They are both calling for strong domestic protectionism.

Many of the poor people in Argentina now have to barter at the Mercado La Salada in Buenos Aires just to get food to eat from tourist money. If they cannot get what they need for survival from bartering or selling they will resort to murder and crimes. These are the jobs and solutions of the former middle class. Will the USA end up the same?????

My analysis is that many of the people who have had their lives beaten down by other races coming in and taking their lifestyles away will react violently. It's already started, you can read techinsurgent.com and look at the archives. The far-right, anti-semitic extremists are given play by people like Glenn Beck and David Duke. They are not actually legitimate voices trying to build a better country but mere Pied Pipers playing on the heart-strings of the ignorant. It's not as simple as left vs right. There are varying colorations of all political movements.

DesperateInRI wrote:Millions of jobs have been outsourced to India, but it is not the fault of the Indian people.

Actually that's incorrect. It was a mutual decision between the government of India and mainly General Electric which started the trend. The Indian government would pitch ideas to Neutron Jack and then they met in the middle. This is all documented in books that contain facts which you can read. (Such as Flat Broke in the Free Market: How Globalization Fleeced Working People, India Express: The Future of the New Superpower, The Disposable American: Layoffs and Their Consequences and the work of Barbara Ehrenreich also documents this globalization trend rather well).

You should also read up on corruption, bribery and bride burning in India. This culture of corruption has spilled over into the USA as it is normal practice in India, but would violate the social norms of Americans.

I'm not against any people or race; they have pretty much all been victimized by Empires or domination. The world realizes this but the politicians work for master Satan. They are mindset on destroying everything and this is what big central banking does. Doesn't matter if you are a rationalist or free-thinker -- the elites are still operating under this paradigm whether or not you even believe it exists.

edit: added some more books you should read

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Post by Guest on Tue May 17, 2011 7:21 am

Actually that's incorrect. It was a mutual decision between the government of India and mainly General Electric which started the trend. The Indian government would pitch ideas to Neutron Jack and then they met in the middle.
You said it right there. The GOVERNMENT of India and GE.

That is why I cannot hold the people of India responsible for the problems facing our country today. It is racist and equates to calling the unemployed citizens of this country responsible for the current economic conditions.

Government[s] and corporations are the problem, not the people they have reduced to slavery.

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