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Post by elvis44102 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:24 pm


with all the endless talk of a "breakdown of values" in the american family, why have few talked about the breakdown in values in the business comunity.
50 years ago there was "an unwritten" social christian contract implied between owners and workers......no more
http://www.kellysite.net/whycon.html

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Re: breakdown of morals within business

Post by tristen303 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:37 pm

My grandfather said back in the day that the big CEO’s of business shunned CEO’s who laid off or closed plants because they were poor CEO’s.

The book stated that CEO’s whose drive for profits in some instances through the use of over expansion, easy credit and short term goals would benefit the shareholders and company briefly but that moderate controlled growth coupled with strong labor relations was the key to long term viability of the company.

It further stated that management had a fundamental obligation to employees to ensure not only gainful long term employment but mobility in the company to increase efficiencies (it went on to state that this was the best counter and defense to unionization)….how novel.

I even read a NY Times editorial (reprinted from around that time)where a CEO was complaining about how he was dismissed out of some club and shunned for having to sell off plants and lay off workers.

We need those ethics again as well as the partnership between management and labor


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Re: breakdown of morals within business

Post by elvis44102 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:32 pm

by tristen303 Yesterday at 4:37 pm


"""It further stated that management had a fundamental obligation to employees to ensure not only gainful long term employment but mobility in the company to increase efficiencies (it went on to state that this was the best counter and defense to unionization)….how novel."""

from whst i read THIS is the Japanese model, and European Model...Capatalism seems to be pravticed in differing "flavors" around the word..you can save money on short term maintenence and lose in the end..

at any rate we are all going to see from the exposure of Bain Capital the
differences between what seem to be opposing philosophies...

1) the "modern" viewpoint that wealth is money which has taken hold since at least reaganomics of the 80's Held currently by the republican party....

2) what I believe is the more traditional viewpoint that wealth is generated through the productive output of people weather that be through straight physical labor or an invented new process or idea that generates more productive capacity....

with viewpoint 1 we have some of the best minds go into pure money manipulation (financial sector)

by the way this seems to be Lyndon LaRouches viewpoint that the true American and human advantage seems to be our ability to learn from our ancesters and constantly come of with new ways to harness nature
to our benefit...in his opinion it is the british system that reduces people to just another disposable resource, and this country has prospered when adhering to the "American" system vs the Bank of england constantly trying to thwart it historyicaly..


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Re: breakdown of morals within business

Post by Prislla568 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:27 pm

I'm afraid those days are long gone...

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Re: breakdown of morals within business

Post by elvis44102 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:56 pm

by Prislla568 Today at 12:27 pm

""I'm afraid those days are long gone....""

They need not be

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Re: breakdown of morals within business

Post by Prislla568 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:01 pm

True, but who's gonna bring them back? You and me? I just don't see our society strong enough to stand up to corporate greed...

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Re: breakdown of morals within business

Post by elvis44102 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:06 am

by Prislla568 Today at 1:01 pm

""True, but who's gonna bring them back? You and me? I just don't see our society strong enough to stand up to corporate greed....""

The Internet is the greatest source of information available at any time in history.....
sad to say but things may get worse before enough people have taken the time to figure out the way things really are...
the powers that run the world have always strove to keep people ignorant...always

i believe the majority of people are decent good and honorable and just want a fair deal.....something that has rarely occured throughout history...

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