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Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

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Post by gonzofl on Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:41 am

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/obama-jobs-economy-speech_n_929024.html

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by tristen303 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:29 pm

LOL come on they got what they wanted through, couldn't stop healthcare huh that was a big issue for us wecouldn't stop it. So lets just say the Dems use the 2/3 rule for their base and it back fired and got them kicked out, no budget, no plans just healthcare and then we can't pass anything becasue of the Repubs please. You had both houses and the executive branch when you wanted stuff passed your side did it, when they wanted a sound bite mine gave it to them but don't mislead the public in how the poor Dems were blocked at every corner no matter what they tried. They work a lot closer together then you think this is just all theater.

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by gettheminNOVEMBER on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:35 pm

tristen303 wrote:LOL come on they got what they wanted through, couldn't stop healthcare huh that was a big issue for us wecouldn't stop it. So lets just say the Dems use the 2/3 rule for their base and it back fired and got them kicked out, no budget, no plans just healthcare and then we can't pass anything becasue of the Repubs please. You had both houses and the executive branch when you wanted stuff passed your side did it, when they wanted a sound bite mine gave it to them but don't mislead the public in how the poor Dems were blocked at every corner no matter what they tried. They work a lot closer together then you think this is just all theater.

I agree that the healthcare should have been done after jobs. But you still did not explain why the repos blocked everything. I will tell you they don't want things to get better. Number one rule of the GOP is to make Obama fail and if we lose jobs SO BE IT. Boehner and Mitch Mcconnel said this. SORRY but again your side does not want JOBS!

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by truth on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:40 pm

gettheminNOVEMBER wrote:
tristen303 wrote:As anybody should that is under the illusion that borrowing more when you can't pay for the bill presently is sound fiscal policy. Just remember to be elected you need a majority of people to side with you, so you want to help create and stimulate growth of said group to gain the majority to get elected to office,the other angle is to keep a majority of said group to stay in office. So the Dems help Union, poor etc. and the Repubs just the rich. To grow one must take from the other.....so who's interests are better which side is better for America? The one that need majority poor etc or the one that needs the majority rich?

Working middle class vote and they make up the largest % of people out there. When you have the media creating fear and lying to their audience they sway the logic and intent of the politicians that take office. Look at Kasaich in Ohio. He is about to get booted along with Scott Walker. If these two would have been honest up front. They NEVER would have been elected.

What you are not taking into account is the large number of newly created poor. These are educated baby boomers left out in the cold.

Tell you what, tell me what YOUR SIDE is going to do to create JOBS because I don't want to hear any more BULLSHITE! All of my shovels are broke and my boots are not high enough anymore. No Very Happy

WE B O R R O W TO PAY FOR THE RICH TAX BREAKS SO END THEM AND THEN WE CAN TALK Exclamation


Here's why we're borrowing. Yep, the Bush tax cuts are a big part of it.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3490

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by gettheminNOVEMBER on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:45 pm

truth wrote:
gettheminNOVEMBER wrote:
tristen303 wrote:As anybody should that is under the illusion that borrowing more when you can't pay for the bill presently is sound fiscal policy. Just remember to be elected you need a majority of people to side with you, so you want to help create and stimulate growth of said group to gain the majority to get elected to office,the other angle is to keep a majority of said group to stay in office. So the Dems help Union, poor etc. and the Repubs just the rich. To grow one must take from the other.....so who's interests are better which side is better for America? The one that need majority poor etc or the one that needs the majority rich?

Working middle class vote and they make up the largest % of people out there. When you have the media creating fear and lying to their audience they sway the logic and intent of the politicians that take office. Look at Kasaich in Ohio. He is about to get booted along with Scott Walker. If these two would have been honest up front. They NEVER would have been elected.

What you are not taking into account is the large number of newly created poor. These are educated baby boomers left out in the cold.

Tell you what, tell me what YOUR SIDE is going to do to create JOBS because I don't want to hear any more BULLSHITE! All of my shovels are broke and my boots are not high enough anymore. No Very Happy

WE B O R R O W TO PAY FOR THE RICH TAX BREAKS SO END THEM AND THEN WE CAN TALK Exclamation


Here's why we're borrowing. Yep, the Bush tax cuts are a big part of it.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3490

The point of borrowing that money is to allow the rich more funds to hire and they have not done it in 10 years. As a matter of fact we lost 8 million jobs and spent 3 trillion. Imagine if we spent that money here on our infrastrusture. We would be kicking economic arse.

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by tristen303 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:54 pm

“Too often in recent history liberal governments have been wrecked on rocks of loose fiscal policy”

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by WilliamsonAngel on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:55 pm

tristen303 wrote:My mind is made up from the use of logic and common sense and those Dem talking points aren't working in America anymore, as for the killing of the poor, elderly etc. etc. that is just nonsense. Battlefield traige, we treat the most life threatening wound first then move to the others.

SIX homeless people (I'm willing to bet they're all jobless, and either receiving insufficient benefits or have run out of benefits) have died in Austin due to the heat we've had here recently.

Where are our republican saviors?

Let's cut entitlement, and take away the food stamps these people use to buy water, maybe we can kill a few more dozen so we don't have to give them 'entitlement' money anymore?

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by gettheminNOVEMBER on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:57 pm

tristen303 wrote:“Too often in recent history liberal governments have been wrecked on rocks of loose fiscal policy”

What does that have to do with borrowing 3 TRILLION and giving it to the rich in hopes they create jobs. Then knowing that will not work and the right will die by the sword to protect this failed policy?

Just admit the bush tax cuts do not work and your kids tristen, will be paying this off for years to come.

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by WilliamsonAngel on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:23 pm

Those darn libs, they keep spending spending spending and increasing our debt.

Wait, wha?
PresidentYearsStarting DebtEnding Debt% Increase
Ronald Reagan (R)1981-1989$908 billion$2.6 trillion+186%
George H.W. Bush (R)1989-1993$2.6 trillion$4.2 trillion+ 62%
Bill Clinton (D)1993-2001$4.2 trillion$5.7 trillion+ 36%
George W. Bush (R)2001-2009$5.7 trillion$10.6 trillion+ 86%
Barack Obama (D)2009 -$10.6 trillion$13 trillion+23 %


Republicans: 186+62+86=334
Democrats: 36+23=59

Hmmmm. :confused:

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Re: Obama Jobs Speech: President To Unveil Plan To Address Unemployment, Boost Economy

Post by gettheminNOVEMBER on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:29 pm

WilliamsonAngel wrote:Those darn libs, they keep spending spending spending and increasing our debt.

Wait, wha?
PresidentYearsStarting DebtEnding Debt% Increase
Ronald Reagan (R)1981-1989$908 billion$2.6 trillion+186%
George H.W. Bush (R)1989-1993$2.6 trillion$4.2 trillion+ 62%
Bill Clinton (D)1993-2001$4.2 trillion$5.7 trillion+ 36%
George W. Bush (R)2001-2009$5.7 trillion$10.6 trillion+ 86%
Barack Obama (D)2009 -$10.6 trillion$13 trillion+23 %


Republicans: 186+62+86=334
Democrats: 36+23=59

Hmmmm. confused

Actually Obama inherited 11.5 trillion dollar debt most charts forget to add TARP that is bush bill of 810BILLION! 10.6 is WRONG.

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