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Congress has a shot at passing jobs-creating bills

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:54 pm

As Congress left for its August recess, the president had signed only 27 bills into law since this session opened in January. Some, such as the just-passed bill to raise the debt ceiling and a bill to extend Patriot Act provisions, were important. But most were more routine — five bills to name post offices or federal buildings, three to name members of the Smithsonian board of regents and four to keep federal airport operations running.

Arguably, not one contributed to job growth. Republicans say that spending cuts in a 2011 budget act and the debt act will stimulate the private sector. Democrats retort that reductions in federal investment in infrastructure and new technology are job killers.

http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110807/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_jobs

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Post by Jobless_in_Ma on Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:33 pm

Congress has had MANY shots at passing a Jobs bill, however they failed repeatedly to take on this task.

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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:45 pm

I also feel that Obama initiatives for job creation is flawed. I am skeptical about his job creation ideas! He is asking repubs. to be bipartisan in his jobs initiatives and that is borrowing money for roads stimulus and also three trade agreement plans to create jobs! Sorry, not going to solve anything! trades ! Are you crazy! The trade agreements work out for the countries that agree with them because we import their products more than we sell! Sorry, this guy has no plans that will work.. its the economy stupid! Its jobs based on an improving economy. Not road money handed down from borrowing because hello! When it runs out, its back to square one! His plans have NEVER worked under any other pres. its the economy stupid!

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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:48 pm

I don't know where his thinking is or going! Failed policies! Roads and bridges, are you kidding! Gov. money to pay for infrastructure, there is another sector of unemployed that need long term jobs... OK, Give them the stimulus for roads and bridges etc!! Then borrow billions more for the specific unemployed in other markets. Give it to employers for specific hiring if your going to borrow money to hand out ! Put the money to use for other groups of workers, not just roads and rail etc!!! Hey, thats a plan!

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Post by lendmeflight2 on Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:18 pm

Infrastructure is the only thing you can do if you want to create a jobs program. You could give it to private companies to hire people but they would just lay people off when the money stopped coming.

This is how an infrastructure stimulus would save us.

You spend money, lot's of it, on building up infrastructure. I would prefer it to be done entirely by the government but the republicans would insist on it being by private companies. That's fine as long as it's regulated. You spend the money rebuilding bridges and rails and roads. This puts contractors and construction workers back to work. They need supplies. This puts lumber and concrete and other building material companies back to work. This puts money in the economy that the workers who were unemployed are now spending. This restarts the retail business. Retail needs to hire more people to meet the demand. the rise in retail hiring puts MORE people back to work and those people spend even more money and pay more in taxes. This depletion of retail goods requires a business to order more and spend money to do it. This stimulates every industry that people spend money in. All of these industries have to hire even more people because the demand is higher. These things have to be delivered so they have to hire more truck drivers. The increase in business requires more wear and tear on computer systems so more programers are needed and so on and so on.

This is, was from the start, Obama's idea to improve the economy. It has been halted at every turn by the republicans. It only takes ONE single republican in the senate to stop any bill. There needs to be more unemployment benefits for everyone but it's pretty late now and we have basically wasted three years. We are still starting out where we were in January of 2009. The only way this will work is to draw a line under where we were and start from where we are.
Pass another stimulus to pay for infrastructure and more benefits and the economy will improve in a year. Once it starts it will be an exponential growth that will build like a snowball faster and faster as it goes. However, they can't make the same mistake as they did the first time and make almost half of it tax cuts and let the states administer it. It needs to be administered by the federal government and none of it can be tax cuts.


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Re: Congress has a shot at passing jobs-creating bills

Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:52 am

lendmeflight2 wrote:Infrastructure is the only thing you can do if you want to create a jobs program. You could give it to private companies to hire people but they would just lay people off when the money stopped coming.

This is how an infrastructure stimulus would save us.

You spend money, lot's of it, on building up infrastructure. I would prefer it to be done entirely by the government but the republicans would insist on it being by private companies. That's fine as long as it's regulated. You spend the money rebuilding bridges and rails and roads. This puts contractors and construction workers back to work. They need supplies. This puts lumber and concrete and other building material companies back to work. This puts money in the economy that the workers who were unemployed are now spending. This restarts the retail business. Retail needs to hire more people to meet the demand. the rise in retail hiring puts MORE people back to work and those people spend even more money and pay more in taxes. This depletion of retail goods requires a business to order more and spend money to do it. This stimulates every industry that people spend money in. All of these industries have to hire even more people because the demand is higher. These things have to be delivered so they have to hire more truck drivers. The increase in business requires more wear and tear on computer systems so more programers are needed and so on and so on.

This is, was from the start, Obama's idea to improve the economy. It has been halted at every turn by the republicans. It only takes ONE single republican in the senate to stop any bill. There needs to be more unemployment benefits for everyone but it's pretty late now and we have basically wasted three years. We are still starting out where we were in January of 2009. The only way this will work is to draw a line under where we were and start from where we are.
Pass another stimulus to pay for infrastructure and more benefits and the economy will improve in a year. Once it starts it will be an exponential growth that will build like a snowball faster and faster as it goes. However, they can't make the same mistake as they did the first time and make almost half of it tax cuts and let the states administer it. It needs to be administered by the federal government and none of it can be tax cuts.


So tell me how crazy I am.



Sorry, stimulus to specific areas produces nothing! It goes to states then they bid out to construction companies and they have employee's already on payrolls. They also do not hire they low bid then reap hugh profits with limited amount of labor! This is a JOKE!!! The only answer is IMPROVE ECONOMY< ONLY ANSWER!! But he has no PLAN to improve. Nothing he has done has come close to working!

Exponential growth my butt! Why the hell hasn't it happened with the last roads and bridges and wind mills for the little dutch girls! FAILED! Not the answer ! Never has worked! infrastructure. when money runs out, its over because no base economy growth. remember, hello!!! about 12 to 14 million unemployed also need jobs. what about our stimulus! Roads, rails, bridges, HA!

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Re: Congress has a shot at passing jobs-creating bills

Post by Rose on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:15 am

Obama is right on with the roads deal I feel. We all know of bad roads and bridges in our area. However the main thing is revenue extended UE as well as give help to the 99ers have max revenue pumping into the econ then you will be ok. That helps small business and with all the business they get you see more and more help wanted signs pop up and ads in the paper. Reps know this and this is why they will do there best to block UE because it will make the economy improve and they want the economy as bad as can be for the 2012 election. They are allready running smear ads for Obama over raising the debt ceiling.

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Re: Congress has a shot at passing jobs-creating bills

Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:25 pm

right! Shot, shot in the dark! and it won't work, never has, never will. Tho we need extensions for survival! Give me a break! He is failed! Its the economy ******! BTW! I see dem ads and comments trashing the repub. party, but I see them as excuses for failure, also weak!

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Re: Congress has a shot at passing jobs-creating bills

Post by nfpexec on Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:25 pm

Yep they'll pass a jobs bill as soon as I get a job which is NEVER!

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Re: Congress has a shot at passing jobs-creating bills

Post by Guest on Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:11 pm

Unfortunately, now they do, but it does come with a huge cost to this country in the form we are seeing now. This is our time. Make you voices heard, please all join us. Put the politics aside. This President tried for a grand bargain, they wouldn't play and many people didn't want him to get it. Now we know they wanted the grand bargain. Unfortunately, the balance of the ratings agencies (as crappy as they are) are now considering it as well and then there is Fannie and Freddie, and that could massively hurt this country, massively. So please all, politics aside, get YOUR voice heard. Tell YOUR story. They need to know our numbers.

Also, important to note, nothing to do with this directly, tomorrow the Wisconsin recall elections take place. This will give the Repubs a pretty good look in the mirror for the future. Important to see how these elections work themselves out.

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