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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:58 pm

Although the nation’s unemployment rate remains above 9 percent and 14.1 million Americans are out of work, two GOP senators think what the economy needs right now is to lay off another 300,000 workers. Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Tom Coburn (R-OK) introduced legislation this week that takes aim at federal workers, ostensibly to save $600 billion by cutting hundreds of thousands of jobs. Their bill would also freeze federal salaries and bonuses, eliminate 15 percent of contract workers, and slash the federal travel budget by an astonishing 75 percent:
Under the bill, S. 1476, salaries and bonuses would be frozen for three years, which Hatch said amounts to $140 billion in reduced spending over 10 years.
It would also require the administration to cut the size of the federal workforce by 15 percent over 10 years, amounting to 300,000 fewer workers. “This could easily be accomplished through attrition and would save taxpayers over $225 billion over that time,” Hatch said.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/04/287606/gop-senators-cut-jobs/

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Post by TOO OLD TO HIRE IN PA on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:07 pm

Sick & Tired wrote:
Although the nation’s unemployment rate remains above 9 percent and 14.1 million Americans are out of work, two GOP senators think what the economy needs right now is to lay off another 300,000 workers. Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Tom Coburn (R-OK) introduced legislation this week that takes aim at federal workers, ostensibly to save $600 billion by cutting hundreds of thousands of jobs. Their bill would also freeze federal salaries and bonuses, eliminate 15 percent of contract workers, and slash the federal travel budget by an astonishing 75 percent:
Under the bill, S. 1476, salaries and bonuses would be frozen for three years, which Hatch said amounts to $140 billion in reduced spending over 10 years.
It would also require the administration to cut the size of the federal workforce by 15 percent over 10 years, amounting to 300,000 fewer workers. “This could easily be accomplished through attrition and would save taxpayers over $225 billion over that time,” Hatch said.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/04/287606/gop-senators-cut-jobs/

MAD

And the CUTS just keep on coming! Keep it up Repukelicans! Kick the middle class when we are down. Where are the Jobs? We don't need cuts!

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Post by tristen303 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:11 pm

I think it's great keep cutting the more the marrier maybe when the numbers are large enough either side will actually do something and the media will actually report it more.

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Re: Despite High Unemployment, GOP Senators Plan To Slash 300,000 Government Jobs

Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:20 pm

TOO OLD TO HIRE IN PA wrote:
Sick & Tired wrote:
Although the nation’s unemployment rate remains above 9 percent and 14.1 million Americans are out of work, two GOP senators think what the economy needs right now is to lay off another 300,000 workers. Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Tom Coburn (R-OK) introduced legislation this week that takes aim at federal workers, ostensibly to save $600 billion by cutting hundreds of thousands of jobs. Their bill would also freeze federal salaries and bonuses, eliminate 15 percent of contract workers, and slash the federal travel budget by an astonishing 75 percent:
Under the bill, S. 1476, salaries and bonuses would be frozen for three years, which Hatch said amounts to $140 billion in reduced spending over 10 years.
It would also require the administration to cut the size of the federal workforce by 15 percent over 10 years, amounting to 300,000 fewer workers. “This could easily be accomplished through attrition and would save taxpayers over $225 billion over that time,” Hatch said.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/04/287606/gop-senators-cut-jobs/

MAD

And the CUTS just keep on coming! Keep it up Repukelicans! Kick the middle class when we are down. Where are the Jobs? We don't need cuts!

BLeep


You know! I thought we had a house and a senate. It seems that the senate has the majority and even thou the house may pass a bill that it also had to go through the senate and they could kill a bill as easy as they could support it! So similar to this latest debt bill that just PASSED, didn't the president and senate vote to pass it! Seems the dems. (in the senate) could take a stand on these killer bills and kill them in the senate! But it appears they turn yellow and run for their political lives with the repubs. But its the wascully repubs. again!

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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:20 pm

geek scratch

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Post by TR11005 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:30 pm

They don't call Senator Hatch it for nothing.

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Re: Despite High Unemployment, GOP Senators Plan To Slash 300,000 Government Jobs

Post by TOO OLD TO HIRE IN PA on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:33 pm

[quote="exhaustedandtired/1208"]
TOO OLD TO HIRE IN PA wrote:
Sick & Tired wrote:
Although the nation’s unemployment rate remains above 9 percent and 14.1 million Americans are out of work, two GOP senators think what the economy needs right now is to lay off another 300,000 workers. Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Tom Coburn (R-OK) introduced legislation this week that takes aim at federal workers, ostensibly to save $600 billion by cutting hundreds of thousands of jobs. Their bill would also freeze federal salaries and bonuses, eliminate 15 percent of contract workers, and slash the federal travel budget by an astonishing 75 percent:
Under the bill, S. 1476, salaries and bonuses would be frozen for three years, which Hatch said amounts to $140 billion in reduced spending over 10 years.
It would also require the administration to cut the size of the federal workforce by 15 percent over 10 years, amounting to 300,000 fewer workers. “This could easily be accomplished through attrition and would save taxpayers over $225 billion over that time,” Hatch said.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/04/287606/gop-senators-cut-jobs/

MAD

And the CUTS just keep on coming! Keep it up Repukelicans! Kick the middle class when we are down. Where are the Jobs? We don't need cuts!

BLeep


You know! I thought we had a house and a senate. It seems that the senate has the majority and even thou the house may pass a bill that it also had to go through the senate and they could kill a bill as easy as they could support it! So similar to this latest debt bill that just PASSED, didn't the president and senate vote to pass it! Seems the dems. (in the senate) could take a stand on these killer bills and kill them in the senate! But it appears they turn yellow and run for their political lives with the repubs. But its the wascully repubs. again![/quote

I agree. While I feel that both parties stink right now, it seems to be the GOP that incite everything with their ridiculous demands! Orin Hatch really takes the cake. He said the poor have to put in their fair share!


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Re: Despite High Unemployment, GOP Senators Plan To Slash 300,000 Government Jobs

Post by elvis44102 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:06 pm

To use their own arguements

1) they admit we need more jobs (they say its Obamas fault)
2) they think that all jobless are "lazy bums" however since they admit there are less jobs then available workers i am not sure how their interpretation can or could be deternined....but then proof doesnt matter much to "people who are sure of themselves" or is it "full of shi*"
3)If they eliminate the jobs in this job market they will then be paying people Half their weekly wage for "doing nothing"...How is this sensible


(while the remaining workers work harder to do the additional work)


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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:15 pm

Obama. I don't like his plan of growing an economy by throwing money to a specific sector. Such pump stimulus money into construction. He knows and we all know this does nothing for the total unemployed. He uses his excuses and says if we expand those markers then they will pump money into the economy! Hello: Been there and done that, hasn't worked!!! The only thing one can do is create programs that affect the economy across the board and maybe a few sectors will take off and then start a wildfire in recovery. But don't show ignorance and say OH boy! I'll pump money into roads and bridges is a real uneducated ignorant attempt to be self serving! he does not want this economy to expand, he'll lose control but if a sector grows with play money in it he can brag and control. He is a failure!

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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:16 pm

His plans over the years has NEVER worked by any other dem. president. Matter of fact, hasn't been a dem. president that has ever kicked a economy into a gear good enough for a recovery!

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Post by lendmeflight2 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:30 pm

Oh really?!!?!?


Have you heard of a man named Franklin Roosevelt? He was the 32nd president of the United States. He took over from a republican named Herbert Hoover. Hoover tried to balance the budget during the great depression and the depression only got worse. Roosevelt, the democrat, SPENT money and turned it around in two years for a significant improvement.

It took Reagan 7 years to get the unemployment rate down to 6% but if Obama can't do it in two then he should get the boot right?

The economy was also pretty good under Clinton too. And Kennedy actually as well. During Eisenhower's republican presidency the Gross Domestic Product of the USA fell by one percent but in Kennedy's term, from Early 1961 to late 1963, the GDP grew by 5.5%.

The economy tanked under Eisnehower, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2.


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Post by gettheminNOVEMBER on Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:53 pm

Hey Tristen I love your partys JOBS PLAN! LMAO

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Post by TOO OLD TO HIRE IN PA on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:24 pm

lendmeflight2 wrote:Oh really?!!?!?


Have you heard of a man named Franklin Roosevelt? He was the 32nd president of the United States. He took over from a republican named Herbert Hoover. Hoover tried to balance the budget during the great depression and the depression only got worse. Roosevelt, the democrat, SPENT money and turned it around in two years for a significant improvement.

It took Reagan 7 years to get the unemployment rate down to 6% but if Obama can't do it in two then he should get the boot right?

The economy was also pretty good under Clinton too. And Kennedy actually as well. During Eisenhower's republican presidency the Gross Domestic Product of the USA fell by one percent but in Kennedy's term, from Early 1961 to late 1963, the GDP grew by 5.5%.

The economy tanked under Eisnehower, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2.


You are absolutely right. I learned everything about the great things FDR did from my Mom & Dad, who LIVED during the Depression.

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Post by JoanB on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:28 pm

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Post by TOO OLD TO HIRE IN PA on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:37 pm

JoanB wrote:JobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicansjobkillingRepublicans


Thanks for posting. Very good!

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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:54 am

lendmeflight2 wrote:Oh really?!!?!?


Have you heard of a man named Franklin Roosevelt? He was the 32nd president of the United States. He took over from a republican named Herbert Hoover. Hoover tried to balance the budget during the great depression and the depression only got worse. Roosevelt, the democrat, SPENT money and turned it around in two years for a significant improvement.

It took Reagan 7 years to get the unemployment rate down to 6% but if Obama can't do it in two then he should get the boot right?

The economy was also pretty good under Clinton too. And Kennedy actually as well. During Eisenhower's republican presidency the Gross Domestic Product of the USA fell by one percent but in Kennedy's term, from Early 1961 to late 1963, the GDP grew by 5.5%.

The economy tanked under Eisnehower, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2.




OMG!! We have new presidents!!!

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Post by truth on Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:06 am

What kind of answer is that? You were the one who mentioned past Presidents.

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Post by truth on Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:13 am

exhaustedandtired/1208 wrote:His plans over the years has NEVER worked by any other dem. president. Matter of fact, hasn't been a dem. president that has ever kicked a economy into a gear good enough for a recovery!

Still standing by these opinions? How about some facts supporting them. When you say "Matter of fact....", it helps for you to supply the facts. Your opinion is not a fact.

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Post by lendmeflight2 on Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:36 am

exhaustedandtired/1208 wrote:
lendmeflight2 wrote:Oh really?!!?!?


Have you heard of a man named Franklin Roosevelt? He was the 32nd president of the United States. He took over from a republican named Herbert Hoover. Hoover tried to balance the budget during the great depression and the depression only got worse. Roosevelt, the democrat, SPENT money and turned it around in two years for a significant improvement.

It took Reagan 7 years to get the unemployment rate down to 6% but if Obama can't do it in two then he should get the boot right?

The economy was also pretty good under Clinton too. And Kennedy actually as well. During Eisenhower's republican presidency the Gross Domestic Product of the USA fell by one percent but in Kennedy's term, from Early 1961 to late 1963, the GDP grew by 5.5%.

The economy tanked under Eisnehower, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2.




OMG!! We have new presidents!!!


What the hell are you talking about 1208? You made the statement that a democratic president has never jump started the economy and I gave you proof that they have AND proof that the economy suffered under republican presidents. What do you expect me to say? Just give ways that Obama saved the economy?


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Post by rprp on Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:00 am

I was listening to Thom Hartmann today and he ws interviewing someone. For every republican administration both suicides and crime goes up. For every democratic administration the opposite is true.

If Mr. Hopey Changey would start acting like a democrat and not a republican maybe we could get somwhere!

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Post by truth on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:18 am

Sadly, politics seem to have descended to a choice between Republican lite and looney right.

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Post by tristen303 on Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:39 pm

Dem Presidents have been better at stimulating the economy through spending (with the exception of Reagan who it could be said was the best). Lastly this spending issue has my party’s hands all over it. Remember our boy Cheney “Deficits don't matter"? Under Reagan we started borrowing to get out of the Carter mess, it worked but continued under Bush. Then Clinton brought back growth which covered the bets the previous two presidents made. Now it can be argued that the Clinton growth was the start of the financial mess we are in now but nonetheless the man and his admin created a surplus. Then comes Bush Jr which does what? Creates another entitlement the presc drug benefit with no way to pay for it but borrow, and then the wars and good bye surplus. However, Medicare by growth alone of the baby boomer generation was always going to exced revenue but only for that generation and Social Security which had real money has been raided to given IOUs. Now the US cannot technically go broke..We can print money that is worthless. But the argument that it’s the Dems fault is not accurate. But the Dems argument that it s the Repubs fault does carry more weight when considering the above however Dems spend so they helped drive drunk too. The problem were facing is the fallacy that one side is better; we need a plan not ideology.

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Post by truth on Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:31 am

tristen,

I agree with this: "the US cannot technically go broke.." wholeheartedly.

However, I'm not saying that speeding up the printing presses is the answer to all our problems. I think that there are some programs that should be cut and some programs that need more funding. Waste should always be eliminated (although reasonable minds can differ as to the nature of wasteful spending). I further think that there are times when the budget should be in balance, times when a deficit is appropriate, and even times when a surplus is desirable.




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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:00 am

While on the other hand Obama wants to slash entitlements such as SS, Medicare and more! He said so!! WOW! who is worse of the two evils??

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Post by exhaustedandtired/1208 on Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:02 am

tristen303 wrote:Dem Presidents have been better at stimulating the economy through spending (with the exception of Reagan who it could be said was the best). Lastly this spending issue has my party’s hands all over it. Remember our boy Cheney “Deficits don't matter"? Under Reagan we started borrowing to get out of the Carter mess, it worked but continued under Bush. Then Clinton brought back growth which covered the bets the previous two presidents made. Now it can be argued that the Clinton growth was the start of the financial mess we are in now but nonetheless the man and his admin created a surplus. Then comes Bush Jr which does what? Creates another entitlement the presc drug benefit with no way to pay for it but borrow, and then the wars and good bye surplus. However, Medicare by growth alone of the baby boomer generation was always going to exced revenue but only for that generation and Social Security which had real money has been raided to given IOUs. Now the US cannot technically go broke..We can print money that is worthless. But the argument that it’s the Dems fault is not accurate. But the Dems argument that it s the Repubs fault does carry more weight when considering the above however Dems spend so they helped drive drunk too. The problem were facing is the fallacy that one side is better; we need a plan not ideology.


Lets face it, every president has a pile of crap to clean up after they are gone! Obama has a Hugh pile already!

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