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Post by dtg22 on Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:19 pm

What is the CA job search requirement per week for EDD? I can't find the answer anywhere on the CA EDD site. I've searched other sites online and only found one site offering an answer. It said that it is minimum two new contacts per week for CA but that doesn't seem like much. Is it more? I just want to make sure that I am least hitting the minimum each week. I don't want my benefits to be denied because I am one contact short. Anyone know the answer? Thanks.

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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by TomW on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:05 am

dtg22 wrote:What is the CA job search requirement per week for EDD? I can't find the answer anywhere on the CA EDD site. I've searched other sites online and only found one site offering an answer. It said that it is minimum two new contacts per week for CA but that doesn't seem like much. Is it more? I just want to make sure that I am least hitting the minimum each week. I don't want my benefits to be denied because I am one contact short. Anyone know the answer? Thanks.
Hi dtg22,

I submitted 3 searches per week (6 per 2-week claim form) for the entire period that I was on Fed-Ed and had no problem at all.

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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by Kathleen on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:28 am

3 to 4 is the norm federally, depends on where you are in the "tiers", Noticed they changed the contacts requirerments; used to be contacts at agencies counted-but now if they don't submit to an employer with a posted position - it doesn't count as a contact. Seems silly as the agency is the one that will pay your salary. Helpful in a way, as I now narrow those contract agencies to ones that actually submit my resume to potential employers and have quit going to a bunch of testing and BS that gets me no where.

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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by cablab on Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:41 am

it is definetly at least 3 per week read the letter they sent you ...

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CA job search requirement

Post by dtg22 on Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:56 am

cablab wrote:it is definetly at least 3 per week read the letter they sent you ...

The only thing I received from EDD was my claim form and a notice about signing up for Cal jobs. Nothing stating anything about a job search minimum. Was I supposed to get something else?


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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by dtg22 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:10 pm

I just got another envelope in the mail today that included:

To Find A Job Use Cal Jobs Brochure
Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed
Notice of Unemployment Insurance Award
A Guide To Benefits and Employment Services Booklet

I've read the first three items and skimmed the last item and still can't find any reference to the minimum job search requirement for CA Unemployment. Does anyone know if CA EDD actually discloses that info?

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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by TomW on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:42 pm

dtg22 wrote:I just got another envelope in the mail today that included:

To Find A Job Use Cal Jobs Brochure
Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed
Notice of Unemployment Insurance Award
A Guide To Benefits and Employment Services Booklet

I've read the first three items and skimmed the last item and still can't find any reference to the minimum job search requirement for CA Unemployment. Does anyone know if CA EDD actually discloses that info?
I never saw it mentioned in any brochures or at their Web site. In forums that I was reading at the time everyone was submitting 3 per week and I did the same when I began Fed-Ed. They always accepted that and I never had any problems. All of those brochures you mentioned I received when I first began unemployment. I assume you are aware that there is no search requirement until you begin Fed-Ed, which happens about a year and a half after you first begin receiving unemployment benefits.

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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by John in Cal on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:15 pm

If the bi weekly claim form doesn't have a check mark in it for job searches during the two weeks, than you don't have to fill out the back of the form showing who you've contacted. If you're like me, you're putting in applications at about six to ten a day. And not hearing back from anyone.

I'm starting to think they don't want fifty three year old workers with a tremendous attitude and stellar experience history. Ya gotta love the new normal.

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welcome to public law 112-96

Post by jerkyspace on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:56 pm

I've read the first three items and skimmed the last item and still can't find any reference to the minimum job search requirement for CA Unemployment. Does anyone know if CA EDD actually discloses that info?

EDD is slow and ineffective. They took TOO LONG to implement and put anything online for HR4213.
They did the same thing with the Deferred New Claim Payment Program (their HR4213/Part Time Penalty implementation).
The same thing is happening with the NEW EUC08 WORK SEARCH REQUIREMENTS in many States (EDD info at the END):

1. Here are the Department of Labor "guidelines":
http://wdr.doleta.gov/directives/attach/UIPL/uipl_4_10_change9_acc.pdf
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE PROGRAM LETTER NO. 04-10, Change 9


D. Work Search Requirements for EUC08 Recipients

Prior to enactment of the Act, the applicable state law work search requirement s , as well
as the applicable state law employment service registration requirements, applied to the
EUC08 program. In addition, there was previously no requirement that claimant s
maintain records of their work search efforts. The Act amended the eligibility provisions
to require that individuals must be able to work, available for work, and actively seeking
work in order to qualify for EUC08. Actively seeking work means that individuals must:

• Register for employment services as prescribed by the state;
• Engage in an active search for work and make appropriate employer contacts in light
of the labor market, and their skills and capabilities;
• Maintain a detailed record of their employer contacts; and
• Provide their work search records to the state upon request.

Notification : States must immediately begin providing notification to all EUC claimants
that they must meet the new EUC08 work search requirements. Such notification may be
done via mail, Internet, or interactive voice response telephone systems.

The Act further requires states to review/audit a minimum number of claimants’ work
search records that are randomly selected to ensure that claimants receiving EUC08 are
meeting the state’s work search requirements. For individuals receiving EUC08 First and
Second Tiers, the states’ review/audit of individuals’ work search documents may be
conducted at the time the individual reports to the One-Stop Career Center for
reemployment services and the continued eligibility assessment (see item E below).
Further guidance will be provided to states regarding their responsibilities for conducting
these audits.


E. Participation in Reemployment Services and Reemployment and Eligibility Assessment
Activities
States are now required to provide reemployment services and in -person reemployment
and eligibility assessments to those individuals establishing a new EUC08 First or
Second Tier claim on or after the 30th day after the date of enactment, which is March
23, 2012. The following reemployment services and reemployment and eligibility
assessment activities are required:

1) The provision of labor market and career information;
2) An assessment of the individual’s skills;
3) Orientation to the services available through the One-Stop Career Centers
established under title I of the Workforce Investment Act of 1 998; and
4) Review of the eligibility of the individual for EUC08 relating to the job search
activities of the individual.
Optional services to be provided include:

1) Comprehensive and specialized assessments;
2) Individual and group career counseling;
3) Training services;
4) Additional reemployment services; and
5) Job search counseling and the development or review of an individual
reemployment plan that includes participation in job search activities and
appropriate workshops and may include referra ls to appropriate training services.

Participation in these reemployment services and continued eligibility assessment
activities is required as a condition of eligibility for receipt of EUC08 unless there is
good cause for the individual’s failure to participate in or complete the services. Funding
for these activities will be provided from the general fund of the Treasury in an amount
equal to the estimated number of individuals who will be provided such services
multiplied by $85.

Further guidance is under development and will be issued by the U.S. Department of
Labor in the near future under separate cover through a Training and Employment
Guidance Letter.


H. Order of Payment

The Act establishes a new coordination rule concerning the order of payment. Effective
March 4, 2012, states must pay any EUC08 entitlement before the payment of any EB
entitlement.


5. Changes Made to the Extended Benefit Program – Temporary Provisions
B. Individual Eligibility Period

The provision permitting certain individuals to qualify for EB following exhaustion
of EUC08 (without an overlap between their benefit year and the EB period-FOOTNOTE 2) is
extended. States may continue to permit these individuals to qualify for EB after they
have exhausted EUC08 during an EB period that began on or before the date the
individuals exhausted EUC08, even if the benefit year of those individuals ended
(See UIPL No. 12-09, Q&A 6). This option remains available to states for weeks of
unemployment beginning after February 17, 2009 , and before December 31, 2012 .

Footnote 2
"To initially qualify for EB under the permanent EB law, an individual must have at least one week in his/her benefit
year that begins in an EB period. (20 CFR 615.2(h)) Section 2005 of P.L. 111-5 allows a state to, at its option,
permit certain individuals to qualify for EB in cases where there is no overlap between the individual’s benefit year
and the EB period. Specifically, the state may permit individuals to qualify for EB when the individuals have
exhausted Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC08) during an EB period that began on or before the date
the individual exhausted.” (See UIPL No. 12-09, Attachment 1 Question 6) "


2. Here is the NEW FEDERAL LAW that the DOL made the ABOVE IMPLEMENTATION UPON (showing just the WORK SEARCH FOR EUC08 bit):

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-112publ96/pdf/PLAW-112publ96.pdf
MIDDLE CLASS TAX RELIEF AND JOB CREATION ACT OF 2012
PUBLIC LAW 112–96—FEB. 22, 2012

Subtitle C—Improving Reemployment
Strategies Under the Emergency Unem-
ployment Compensation Program
SEC. 2141. IMPROVED WORK SEARCH FOR THE LONG-TERM
UNEMPLOYED.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Section 4001(b) of the Supplemental Appro-
priations Act, 2008 (Public Law 110–252; 26 U.S.C. 3304 note)
is amended—
(1) by striking ‘‘and’’ at the end of paragraph (2);
(2) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (3)
and inserting ‘‘; and’’; and
(3) by adding at the end the following:
‘‘(4) are able to work, available to work, and actively
seeking work.’’.
(b) ACTIVELY SEEKING WORK.—Section 4001 of such Act is
amended by adding at the end the following:
‘‘(h) ACTIVELY SEEKING WORK.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—For purposes of subsection (b)(4), the
term ‘actively seeking work’ means, with respect to any indi-
vidual, that such individual—
‘‘(A) is registered for employment services in such a
manner and to such extent as prescribed by the State
agency;
‘‘(B) has engaged in an active search for employment
that is appropriate in light of the employment available
in the labor market, the individual’s skills and capabilities,
and includes a number of employer contacts that is con-
sistent with the standards communicated to the individual
by the State;
‘‘(C) has maintained a record of such work search,
including employers contacted, method of contact, and date
contacted; and
‘‘(D) when requested, has provided such work search
record to the State agency.
‘‘(2) RANDOM AUDITING .—The Secretary shall establish for
each State a minimum number of claims for which work search
records must be audited on a random basis in any given week.’’.


3. Here is what EDD/California has said:

http://www.edd.ca.gov/unemployment/Federal_Unemployment_Insurance_Extensions.htm
New Developments on Federal Unemployment Extensions
(Updated June 26, 2012)

Federal Unemployment Benefit Extensions New Work Search Requirements

The federal legislation signed by President Obama in February requires individuals to meet specific new work search requirements to be paid benefits on their federal extensions. Those collecting federal extensions could lose their benefits if they fail to comply with the work search requirements of the federal law. Individuals collecting regular UI benefits and federal extension benefits have always been required to look for work. However, this legislation requires individuals collecting federal extension benefits (Tiers 1-4) to also meet the following work search requirements, in addition to meeting all other UI eligibility requirements:

Document their work search efforts, which now must include contacts with at least three different employers each week; and
Provide their work search documentation upon request to the EDD; and
Ensure they are registered in EDD’s CalJOBSSM, California’s online job listing and resume service, by entering or updating their résumé in the system.


Notices of New Work Search Requirements:
Notices Mailed to Individuals Currently Collecting Extended Benefits and Those Who Could Reopen Extended Benefit Claims

Under the federal law, the EDD is required to notify all individuals with a federal extension filed of the new work search requirements, regardless if the individuals are currently collecting extension benefits. As a result, the EDD mailed a Notice of New Work Search Requirements for the Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) Program, DE 6331EU-ESW, to more than 850,000 individuals who have a federal extension filed with a balance remaining whether or not they are currently collecting extension benefits.

For those individuals currently collecting extension benefits, this notice advises of the work search requirements individuals must meet to be paid benefits on their extensions.
For those individuals not currently collecting extension benefits, this notice advises of the work search requirements they will need to meet should they reopen their extension in the future. Individuals not collecting extension benefits at this time do not need to contact the Department regarding this notice.

For individuals filing new tiers of federal extensions, the EDD will advise them of their work search requirements on the extension eligibility notice mailed to claimants when the first, second, third, or fourth federal extension is filed.

For more information on the work search requirements, please visit our frequently asked questions on the FAQ – Extended Unemployment Benefits page.


I wonder how long it will take states to start screwing this up. THEY have been LEFT TO DETERMINE the NUMBER OF CONTACTS which the FEDS LEFT UP TO THEM. They all knew this law was happening, and yet the public has to go digging to find the information again. Let the confusion begin. Expect Florida and other States to screw people, and others to help them. The FEDS LEFT THE DOOR WIDE OPEN AGAIN...both with the number of contacts and whether or not Unions qualify as multiple employers or a single "contact" (the same might apply with labor temp agencies or other employment services that contact multiple employers but from "one contact" main source).

* CALIFORNIA UNION NOTE *
IF YOU WORK FOR OR THROUGH A UNION.
THE THREE EMPLOYER EUC08 WORK SEARCH REQUIREMENT MAY NOT APPLY (at least in California).
After first sending me the three employer work search requirement letter, and then me informing them by email of my Union affiliation and requirements, EDD THEN informed me by mail that I will only have to contact my Union every week and be available for work through them (I sign up online on an "out of work list"). You have to remain in "good standing" with your Union, but otherwise there is no change. Unions contact many many employers on my behalf, but I have no way to get a record of jobs I don't get dispatched to. EDD actually did something that made sense (without an appeal no less!). I am keeping a print out of each weeks availability sign up to cover myself in case of any random audit or questions later. I am not sure how other states are implementing this...

I hope all this info helps.
Happy reading.

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Re: CA job search requirement

Post by carlch on Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:55 pm

cablab wrote:it is definetly at least 3 per week read the letter they sent you ...

And I believe the CA EDD form requires the name of the person you contacted. A real problem as it's almost impossible to speak to the hiring person OR the person you are sending the resume to since most job apps are online. Don't even trying cold calling --- most business now have an entrance code for entering a lobby.

Further, just wait until December 31, 2012 all tiers will cease abruptly no matter where recipients are in the process --- what a joke this country has become.

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