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Post by Jobless_in_Ma on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:06 am

Lets use this to express our anger about certain quotes we may see in certain articles.


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Use the quote button above in the post editing field (12th one over from right),
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This is a good way to blow off some steam!

Please remember to follow those guidelines so were not violating copyright laws. All posts doing so will be either edited or deleted to abide by these guidelines.

I will start.

Lembke called the extra 20 weeks of payments a burden on the jobless person's neighbor, who may be struggling, too. "You have to consider who's paying for this, and it's the taxpayer," he said.

Though Missouri has a 9.4 percent unemployment rate, Lembke said some employers — such as a home-health care company and a Jefferson County manufacturer — have told him they have trouble finding workers willing to take jobs paying $10 to $15 an hour.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_6b3ab23d-27c5-52d2-8ddd-e89837e4e7e4.html[code]

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:07 am

I therefore advocate "possibility thinking." The reason I do is that when we feed our brains possible choices, the brain's unconscious "navigator" starts to sketch a plan to move us toward potential solutions. If at first we do not see the answers, it does not matter. Simply feeding the brain information will help us see possibilities. In the best situations, we will not only find solutions but also better alternatives than we had previously had.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/srinivasan-pillay/what-do-you-do-if-you-are_b_842440.html

It is so easy for others to tell us to "think positive" when they are not in this situation. How can they possibly understand the destruction that long term unemployment has done to our lives?

"Think Positive" after you have watched everything you have worked for 35 - 40 is lost, you have faced rejection after rejection (if you are lucky, most of the time your applications are just simply ignored), as each day passes, it is becomes more unlikely to find a job that pays a livable wage, you alienate yourself from friends and family,.......... NO, I can't think positive anymore! Don't tell me to!

In addition to the need for additional weeks of benefits and job creation, something needs to be done to help us overcome the psychological and emotional damage the "Great Recession" has caused. Evil or Very Mad

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Post by americatheneedy on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:38 am

This think positve crap is what they used to call "drinking the koolaid." It means to not get angry (they don't want that), and just keep smiling like the idiots they think the unemployed are. Yes, I know you are almost homeless, and can't buy food, but keep your chin up??? While I agree it's good to take a walk, try to get out ( if you can afford to) and do what you can to keep sane, I have started going off on people who tell me to stay postive, it's just a way to say something for someone who really doesn't give a sh**!

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:58 am

What frustrates me most about that quote..."think positive"...is that this is one of those situations where no matter how "positive" you remain, it isnt going to change anything because we are dealing with jobs that aren't there, crooked or insane members of congress, etc...the list goes on.

Although I do remain positive in some aspects, I find it very difficult most of the time. I just keep poking along with hopes of change for the better. There are instances where positivity changes the direction of ones life, but in this case we are dependent on others to change it for us because the things we need (ie job creation) depends upon others actions. Our lives are literally in "their" hands.

By telling others to "try and remain positive" it helps remind me to remain positive at times too. But believe me, I understand...when it comes from people who couldn't possibly have any clue what we are dealing with it makes me cringe.

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:05 am

You are all my friends and we are all in this together. While I agree on many subjects, this is where we part. I will not give in and let them make me a person I am truly not. Resentment, festering and anger doesn't work for me. Do I love my situation, absolutely not, does it frustrate me and make me cry, all the time. But giving in to it, disliking others because they are not in my situation is the equivalent to me of letting them win. If I allow this to put me a box where I will accept any job out of fear, I will allow people to make me feel that I am somehow less productive, intelligent or worthy is letting them win. I am not that person, you are not those people and I refuse to allow them to put me in that box. I know, as all of you do, what I/we are capable of as humans and as employees. I know what I have accomplished and what I still want to accomplish, no one is going to take that from me. So I do get why staying positive is a good thing. The words So Be It will never come out of my mouth when it involves another human being and their welfare or their familys' welfare. So I will stay positive and I will not give in. Pollyanna lives!

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:41 pm

As applications have fallen, hiring has started to pick up.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fewer-people-sought-apf-2639520745.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=

This makes me mad. It is not true! These are people who are filing for unemployment for the first time. There are more claims than jobs created! How can anybody deny the truth!
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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:22 pm

Not a quote, but............

With all the unemployed and 99ers out there, why aren't we organizing. I don't mean a National march on Washington, I'm talking local rallies, planned at the same time on the same day across the country. I know we don't have money, but there has to be a way to do this. Until we do, nothing is going to get done. We need a face to go with the emails, faxes and tweets! I wish all the guests we have here daily would sign up, use the chatbox and organize. It is free and something that has to be done if we have any chance of survival. People out there are intelligent and creative. We need their input, we can't do this by ourselves.

Please people, sign up and post your ideas. The only ideas that are stupid are the ones that you don't share. We need your help!

POST - we don't bite!

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Post by Jobless_in_Ma on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:57 pm

This whole article!

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/03/31/no_joke_april_fools_snowstorm_heads_to_northeast/

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:19 pm

I don't have an article to reference. My #1 source of anger comes from the statement, unemployed, long term unemployed and those who have stopped looking. Who among us has stopped looking???? Just my two cents.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:49 am

“Republicans are listening to the American people and focused on their top priority: creating jobs." -House Speaker John Boehner's comment on the drop (?) in the unemployment rate and increase in jobs (??) for March.

LMAO I have two words for Speaker Boehner - "B.S." mad

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:22 pm

MaryKay wrote:If I allow this to put me a box where I will accept any job out of fear, I will allow people to make me feel that I am somehow less productive, intelligent or worthy is letting them win. I am not that person, you are not those people and I refuse to allow them to put me in that box. I know, as all of you do, what I/we are capable of as humans and as employees. I know what I have accomplished and what I still want to accomplish, no one is going to take that from me.

I wish that were possible. Unfortunately, here in SoCal, and in L.A. in particular (I don't want to speak for the rest of the state), it's who you know more than what you can do that lands you the job.

And even worse, many employers want employees, for low-low wages, who will not complain about workplace abuse and who will keep their head down & mouth shut - no matter what. There is a line of people - that runs all the way down south to the border - that are willing to work under these conditions. I see it all the time. And I've experienced it first hand <------- it makes me absolutely sick when I think about what I witnessed.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:41 pm

This whole article pisses me off!!
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/07/238929/analysis-pawlentys-tax-plan-cost/

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:37 pm

THIS is what really, really pisses me off. and forgive me, there are too many articles/blogs/headlines to quote.

We have so many more important, emergent situations going on right now - namely the unemployment issues: people literally hungry/starving, losing their homes, their livelihoods, their families, mode of transport, dignity, self worth, etc. In addition, we are still involved in two very unnessary wars. There is the unrest in the Middle East and the rise in anti-semitism and bigotry in general. And finally, the budget cuts that are affecting our military personnel, first responders, teachers, & infrasctructure...

And with all this, the tone in Washington and State Government is simply ridiculous. period. I am so disgusted with the D&R parties. They make me sick! They simply do not care and are so wrapped up in their little dramas that nothing works anymore. Nothing is getting accomplished to solve any of these pressing matters.

It's become a soap opera, and I hate it. Worse, it's like high school all over again with the little clicks bickering with each other.

I don't care about your private lives or your yachts, parties, spending, Corporate BS. Put your big girl/boy pants on, Ladies and Gentlemen that run this country, and get the heck to work! Do your jobs! Help!

And as an example, the media is focusing on Arnold's love children and Weiner-gate. It's absurd!! I DON'T care! I never did. I think it's all a distraction from the what is truly going on and how horrible things are in America.

And don't EVEN get me started on the Immigration/Illegals issue. That absolutely puts me over the edge.


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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:56 pm

This was just in our Google News widget:

Alcohol sales thrive in hard times

Sales expanded more than 9% in 2008, the first full year of the recession, when the average unemployment rate was 5.8%. Sales slumped dramatically the following year, but were still 1% higher, as the unemployment rate shot up to about 9.3%.

In 2010, sales jumped more than 9% as unemployment grew to 9.6%.

So now we are not only drug-addicts, we are also alcoholics! drunken
http://tinyurl.com/3uag4kr

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:14 pm

go figure! Celebrate

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:29 pm

DesperateInRI wrote:This was just in our Google News widget:

Alcohol sales thrive in hard times

Sales expanded more than 9% in 2008, the first full year of the recession, when the average unemployment rate was 5.8%. Sales slumped dramatically the following year, but were still 1% higher, as the unemployment rate shot up to about 9.3%.

In 2010, sales jumped more than 9% as unemployment grew to 9.6%.

So now we are not only drug-addicts, we are also alcoholics! drunken
http://tinyurl.com/3uag4kr

ok, wth is so hard for them to understand? WE ARE BROKE!!! WE CANT AFFORD TO BE A DRUG ADDICT OR AN ALCOHOLIC!! IT COSTS MONNNEEEYYYYY $$$$$$!!!

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:47 pm

Sick &amp; Tired wrote:
DesperateInRI wrote:This was just in our Google News widget:

Alcohol sales thrive in hard times

Sales expanded more than 9% in 2008, the first full year of the recession, when the average unemployment rate was 5.8%. Sales slumped dramatically the following year, but were still 1% higher, as the unemployment rate shot up to about 9.3%.

In 2010, sales jumped more than 9% as unemployment grew to 9.6%.

So now we are not only drug-addicts, we are also alcoholics! drunken
http://tinyurl.com/3uag4kr

ok, wth is so hard for them to understand? WE ARE BROKE!!! WE CANT AFFORD TO BE A DRUG ADDICT OR AN ALCOHOLIC!! IT COSTS MONNNEEEYYYYY $$$$$$!!!
CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO BUY THE LEGAL DRUGS THAT DOCTORS PRESCRIBE FOR US TO KEEP US ALIVE - NEVER MIND ILLEGAL DRUGS AND BOOZE!!!

I am about to de-friend 3 long-time friends on Facebook who think the unemployed should be drug tested. I am arguing with one now. Dagnabit bad people!!!

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Post by mj33 on Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:08 pm

I think and would be in support of any state legislatures that decided to enact drug testing of any kind for those american citizens that fall under the SSI and/or SSDI program, as theres certainly large pool that unfortunately all regularly taking or addicted to their own choice of illegal drugs. Id be also ok with anyone receiving cash assistance on regular basis to be regularly or randamly tested as its for betterment of our own well being and country.

As for the unemployment insurance recipients, if it's part of emergency based spending, Id personally have no problem at all for randomized testing if they decided wanted to, as we can still live relatively healthy lifestyles while refraining from illegal drugs, and so be it if they'd like to test us for that. We have tons more to worry about such as paying our basic essential monthly bills, at least that's the way I view it at this point.

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Post by New_Wave_Princess on Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:20 pm

mj33 wrote:I think and would be in support of any state legislatures that decided to enact drug testing of any kind for those american citizens that fall under the SSI and/or SSDI program, as theres certainly large pool that unfortunately all regularly taking or addicted to their own choice of illegal drugs. Id be also ok with anyone receiving cash assistance on regular basis to be regularly or randamly tested as its for betterment of our own well being and country.

As for the unemployment insurance recipients, if it's part of emergency based spending, Id personally have no problem at all for randomized testing if they decided wanted to, as we can still live relatively healthy lifestyles while refraining from illegal drugs, and so be it if they'd like to test us for that. We have tons more to worry about such as paying our basic essential monthly bills, at least that's the way I view it at this point.

I too support drug testing in certain cases. First off, let me say that I am for legalizing drugs to begin with, but do not support people on assistance taking drugs. By assistance I am talking those on SSI and welfare. Many people don't realize that there are people who qualify for disability that shouldn't and do use drugs. There are many people on welfare who do drugs and I've known quite a few. Right now Chicago plans to drug test anyone who lived in subsidized housing and I support this because many of these people are life long welfare users.

However, I do not support drug testing for unemployment because most people who receive unemployment want to work. Most aren't life long users of assistance.

Regarding articles that bother me this one does because it basically states that most of the unskilled jobs are going to illegals and the higher paid to visa holders, the majority are from India: http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/new-cbo-immigration-study-12-population-foreign-born-4-here-illegally

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:33 pm

DesperateInRI wrote:
Sick & Tired wrote:
DesperateInRI wrote:This was just in our Google News widget:

Alcohol sales thrive in hard times

Sales expanded more than 9% in 2008, the first full year of the recession, when the average unemployment rate was 5.8%. Sales slumped dramatically the following year, but were still 1% higher, as the unemployment rate shot up to about 9.3%.

In 2010, sales jumped more than 9% as unemployment grew to 9.6%.

So now we are not only drug-addicts, we are also alcoholics! drunken
http://tinyurl.com/3uag4kr

ok, wth is so hard for them to understand? WE ARE BROKE!!! WE CANT AFFORD TO BE A DRUG ADDICT OR AN ALCOHOLIC!! IT COSTS MONNNEEEYYYYY $$$$$$!!!
CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO BUY THE LEGAL DRUGS THAT DOCTORS PRESCRIBE FOR US TO KEEP US ALIVE - NEVER MIND ILLEGAL DRUGS AND BOOZE!!!

I am about to de-friend 3 long-time friends on Facebook who think the unemployed should be drug tested. I am arguing with one now. Dagnabit bad people!!!

I hear you Desp. It's a struggle for my meds for the month, let alone recreational ones. Alcohol, well, I got a bottle of margarita mix (alcohol is in it) for Christmas, it's June, haven't opened it yet. I am waiting to celebrate with all of you. Not to say that some poor souls who have an alcohol problem don't use any means necessary to buy alcohol, but let me say, they will be any alcohol it doesn't need to be expensive to get them through. Addiction is a huge problem as we know, and yes there are some people who will work the system, or work the system at a job, but they are not the majority. This is all just an excuse to not have to deal with a problem so large they don't know where to begin dealing with it. That's a fact they won't admit so they will villanize those that need benefits.

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Post by mj33 on Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:16 pm

I guess another way to look the subject of something like drug testing is that some employers randomly have been known to test for particular purposes , and others require upon being hired as part of background test, so from that standpoint don't think there's really much of an argument to be made. In addition, let them test us as if we feel we can pass it with flying colors then what does it even really matter, we shouldn't realy have any problem with it. SSDI recipients tend to be even higher as opposed to those just on SSI from past research, for whatever that's worth.

As for alcohol, we know that if used in moderation a couple or few times a month to where we don't overconsume, have to rely on it, or can go without it, is fine with, plus at least the other thing with that is its much less expensive for a few cheap drinks as opposed to wasting money on monthly budget like cigarrettes, papers, chew tobacco, pills, marijuana, hard liquor, etc...

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Post by New_Wave_Princess on Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:26 pm

At my last employer I had to go through an extensive physical including drug testing. At temp jobs I had to as well. I figure since I had to I see nothing wrong with requiring those on long term assistance to be tested.

Besides if I want alcohol I'll go to church. They always have events with booze and they always have beer and wine in the frig. Very Happy

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:26 pm

mj33 wrote:I guess another way to look the subject of something like drug testing is that some employers randomly have been known to test for particular purposes , and others require upon being hired as part of background test, so from that standpoint don't think there's really much of an argument to be made. In addition, let them test us as if we feel we can pass it with flying colors then what does it even really matter, we shouldn't realy have any problem with it. SSDI recipients tend to be even higher as opposed to those just on SSI from past research, for whatever that's worth.

As for alcohol, we know that if used in moderation a couple or few times a month to where we don't overconsume, have to rely on it, or can go without it, is fine with, plus at least the other thing with that is its much less expensive for a few cheap drinks as opposed to wasting money on monthly budget like cigarrettes, papers, chew tobacco, pills, marijuana, hard liquor, etc...

I take issue with having to submit to a drug test just because I am unemployed. I find it insulting. There is no reason whatsoever to test for drugs just because we don't have a job. I feel it is discrimination and a violation of my privacy. And who is going to pay for it? I will gladly submit to drug-testing for the purpose of obtaining and keeping a job.

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Post by New_Wave_Princess on Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:30 pm

Also, with regards to unemployment we pay taxes on it and mostly we receive it through no fault of one's own. That's why I don't believe unemployment should require drug testing. Very few people on unemployment are life long users and in fact it's impossible to be as such.

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Post by mj33 on Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:39 pm

Well, I just think there's a lot of things in this 'world' we live in that we don't like and might think is 'violating our personal privacy', but we just ahve to learn to deal with it, and again, if we are clean and not abusing the system with taking and under influence of any illegal type drug, bottom line is they can do what they want, IF the funding comes from emergency based spending. its more less a type of health related issue which is preventative medicine and promoting proper health, guess really not like the invadiing our 'privacy' at all like the feds checking into our phone lines with whomever we are talking to, now that is personal privacy and really crossing some borders.

I think insulting to some degrees is us being unemployed itself, heck how much worse can it get, I think taking a drug test is very little in comparison to deal with walking into the food stamp line for first time or two, and at this point we have multiple of millions unemployed so not like we're being singled out at all. SSDI recipients definately need to be tested just from the sheer numbers/amount we all know that are regularly addicted to and taking illegal drugs.

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